Showed this information to my boomer mother who then asked my also tech illiterate step father what he thought.
“We don’t send sensitive information through texts.”
The ignorance almost physically hurts… Thinking that only the actual message content is important.
Or ignoring the pictures we send and the private things I talk about with my mom.
Do I think that specifically my information would be useful to China? Likely not. But I also have no idea what all is possible with that kind of information in the aggregate.
At the very least, I assume they will use it to manipulate us even more with disinformation.
I’m so exhausted at people who answer like this.
It makes me feel crazy.
How about we just do away with unencrypted messaging all-together?
And this is why I dont like matrix.
It would already be mostly that way, but Apple, being the POS company that it is, refuses to switch their messaging system to RCS like everyone else. Apple wants to use only their proprietary imessage and it’s not compatible with everyone else. They are why all messages aren’t encrypted.
They’re also being forced/pressured into changing this in the near future, I believe.
My work iPhone has RCS. So I believe they already have been pressured.
I’m actually really not concerned about foreign governments spying on me but I am bothered by my own government, the guys with the guns who can arrest me, doing it.
Tho I suspect if the government is recommending ways to avoid messages being intercepted, they’ve already cracked how to intercept them.
What’s rich is the FBI promoting WhatsApp. Yeah, not a fucking chance.
Messages between two Apple devices are safe, and messages between two Android devices are safe, but messages between an Apple device and and Android device are vulnerable.
This is not very accurate. Some Android devices come with Google Messages, which will use Google’s encrypted version of RCS if the carrier supports it. People who don’t know what all of that means should not assume their messages are encrypted.
Such an advice coming from surveillance authorities, perhaps it’s a Harvest now decrypt later strategy?
Harvest now, decrypt later, also known as store now, decrypt later or retrospective decryption, is a surveillance strategy that relies on the acquisition and long-term storage of currently unreadable encrypted data awaiting possible breakthroughs in decryption technology that would render it readable in the future - a hypothetical date referred to as Y2Q (a reference to Y2K) or Q-Day.
The most common concern is the prospect of developments in quantum computing which would allow current strong encryption algorithms to be broken at some time in the future, making it possible to decrypt any stored material that had been encrypted using those algorithms. However, the improvement in decryption technology need not be due to a quantum-cryptographic advance; any other form of attack capable of enabling decryption would be sufficient.
The more data, the better for surveillance authorities in the future, when E2EE is somehow broken.
Maybe I’m too paranoid, but this (Harvest now decrypt later) is an ongoing known strategy.
Session is very good and doesn’t require a phone number (like Signal).
I don’t believe Signal requires a phone number anymore
Clunky for the average joe
How, in 2024, are people still using TEXTs??
There are so many apps for encrypted messaging, even fricken WhatsApp.
How do people still use text messages
It’s an American thing.
How do people still use text messages
Text is super simple. Built in to every phone, universal compatibility, no downloads/accounts to deal with, don’t have to track which of your friends is on which protocol…
There’s 1000’s of reasons to use something else, but it’s already there & takes zero effort to use which makes it the default.
Article about encryption technology that doesn’t even mention the ol’ reliable PGP you can use over any communication channel?
User error is high with this one. Also doesn’t have PFS.
But you’re right it should be mentioned.
I don’t want WhatsApp & I avoid the 'stores, so it’s F-Droid options for me…
Any opinions on Jami?
I’m also seeing XMPP mentioned in the comments, so I might look at that a bit more…
The FBI also doesn’t want back doors… They just want a way for law enforcement to access any encrypted messages they want to.
https://www.thesslstore.com/blog/us-senator-calls-fbi-director-dumb-stance-encryption/
I have tried, over and over with the people i communicate with daily(family), and because i take medicine they always say “have you seen your phsyc recently?, have you taken your meds?”
Well that would be fucking annoying as fuck lmao. Sorry you have to deal with that
For what it’s worth I’ve got a group of friends who don’t give a shit either. Like they take some weird pleasure in not using E2E communication apps and just use SMS. It takes 2 seconds to download a new app.
They can spy on me all they want, I got nuthin to hide harhar
Nothing to hide yet*. Just because you trust the current government and companies doesn’t mean you always will. Data harvested now can be used against you (or your family) in the future. How will these people feel when 20 years from now they are denied medical insurance coverage because they have some data on you that proves you used to consume something that is later proven to cause a medical issue. For example, 50 years ago people didn’t know that tobacco caused cancer. How would they feel if that information was used against them? What if just smoking even one cigarette increased their insurance premiums by double? These sorts of things could happen in the future. You never know how laws or economies will change, but one thing is certain: information collected on you now will never be used to your benefit, only to your detriment.
“Don’t let CHINA read your messages! Let Facebook!”
