This is not my pic because I forgot to screenshot it when I did it. Microsoft has the hardest captcha I have ever had to complete. This one looks easier but I had a similar one that on my phone the images were too small, not recognizable and were more abstract looking shapes. It was so hard, I failed like 8 times (there were several ‘rounds’) and it almost made me second guess whether I might actually be a robot lol. Luckily, there was an audio version where you have to pick from a number of melody recordings and choose the one that was a pattern. Anyone else have trouble with this?
Pretty sure any decent model could easily solve that anyways. To borrow a quote about bears from the National Park Service, there’s now significant overlap between your dumbest users and the smartest AI.
Pretty sure any decent model could easily solve that anyways.
True, but often these things also track the mouse movements or touch inputs and analyse those to see if they match natural human input or not. Of course advanced AI would be able to simulate proper inputs but most bots today would fail this check.
I am usually good at puzzles but this was hard to see on my phone. The pictures were much smaller in my version compared to the image. It wasn’t an intelligence issue, it was a vision issue. Yet, many sites still just use a check box even the bank I work for does. Bigger companies than MS use a checkbox.
The checkbox is only the first step. When it’s a google recapcha, cloudflare, etc that have the checkbox, this is the trigger to check. It sees how long since you loaded the page to when the checkbox is checked, how the mouse moved (perfectly straight line or instant jump to position indicates bot), and other info they have about previous visits (they store a cookie on your PC and when you go to another site they know where you have been and can compare that against the much higher risk of a blank slate user or against whether you’ve tried the same form 100 times).
If you pass that, as 90%+ of users should, then you see no more. If you are like me, you use a VPN and fail the first check and have to do endless recapcha “click on the busses” until you give up and quit the site.
I hate the google ones. Not only do they make life unbearable for people with VPNs, they use the info about what sites you visit to sell ads. And half the time you don’t even know because the recapcha is the hidden in page one not the one in the form when you click the box.
The cloudflare ones are nicer. They virtually always pass me even though I’m behind a VPN, and although they technically can track me across sites (and probably do to track threat level), they aren’t in the business of selling ads based on that data.
I have also generally had a nice experience with hCapcha. And recently I came across one that is using proof of work, mCaptcha - not sure what to think on that as it probably uses excess energy but it’s nice to have your computer sort it out in the background. The idea here is a sort of rate limit. It takes a few seconds to do the work to pass the test (variable difficulty depending on how many accesses are happening on the site - i.e. whether they are under attack), but it all happens in the background while you fill the form in so you don’t notice. It slows down bots but doesn’t really detect them - more of a rate limiter or something designed to reduce the cost effectiveness of bots.
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I got this one the other day during a checkout process. This site lost the sale, I couldn’t crack it.
I would have picked the only picture of a dog. Bees and Tapirs/Capybaras don’t seem to fit
Me and all my friends agree, but the site did not accept that as the correct answer. I originally took that picture to get a second opinion and make sure I wasn’t going crazy heh. I even tried for a new captcha, and it was still nonsense.
We did it, we beat AI. And humans.
That one is terrible. I assume by “object” they mean “dog wearing accessories”. That captcha was made to trick humans.
A few years ago when I was in college, I would’ve been able to solve that equation probably but that information has since left my brain lol.
Yup same, i looked it up and it all came back. However, it’s still a completely useless knowledge in my normal adult life, though i’m a software engineer
Much of the math I learned was memorizing steps. If it came up in real life I probably wouldn’t be able to piece all necessary info into an equation. Even a word problem is assumed to include the minimum. I am not a software engineer nor a programmer (yet) I am learning python supposedly a good precursor since my bg is in web design. The way i see it, all forms of logic while they don’t have a direct applied use in my life, serve as an exercising of my mind and can help understand inconsistencies and other logic/reasoning concepts. They are indirectly related.
i totally agree, it’s still good problem solving skill
I haven’t seen one like this but I am a little tired of looking at grainy traffic lights.
The version I did had smaller circles, more abstract and nearly indistinguishable symbols and shapes and the numbers were scattered throughout the orbits. Some numbers were in between and it took a few seconds to figure out what orbit they were ‘labeling’. Also as you scrolled through the options, it seemed as if none fit the appropriate answer so I defaulted to the audio.
I’m tired of looking at clear, easy to spot traffic lights that I get 100% right but have to do page after page of them because I’m using a VPN. If it’s not important I will give up on a site using reCaptcha.
Apparently if you wanted to *defeat AI you just need to ask the user how many R’s there are in strawberry.
*edit because dictation is stupid
OG captcha: What’s this word?
Feed that I told ML to get OCR.
Now AI can’t count letters.
Today I learned I was a robot.
Someone shared with me having to calculate the resistance of a resistor once. I sent them the color band chart to figure it out lol
They should just make a captcha that asks how many 'r’s in ‘strawberry’.
It’s interesting in how it combines three different tests - visualization of both the targets and the field to move them in, comprehension of what the task is, and correct movement. I had to take a second to understand the whole point myself.
People generally already don’t want a ms account, so now they’re making it even harder to get one lol morons
Some services require an MS or Google sign in
That’s a fair point. But I’ve always seen it as a choice (sign in with ms, LinkedIn, google, or fb). Which services (besides Microsoft) require a ms account?
Minecraft, as I learned when my ms got hacked and their team couldn’t restore my account to me for some reason
‘Wouldn’t’, I think. Ms’s customer service is abysmal on their paid services, I can only imagine how bad it is on their no-cost services. And, the thing is, they have the resources to have better customer service than Amazon gives their Prime members, but they seem to choose not to. It’s strange to me.
I forget the name but I was looking for free versions of no code app builders to make a productivity app of my own and one did not have a way to sign up with any email only sign up with Google or MS. Also had to create this second MS account, triggering this captcha, originally because I was using MS designer to generate free AI images but the fast tokens run out 15 a day. So to exploit AI, I always use multiple accounts and it is an MS service. I have like 10 MS accounts now due to using up the free OneDrive storage plans.
Edit: I never connect anything to FB. Meta is the only place that knows my real name and info. (Unfortunately). I also don’t have LinkedIn.
Ah, that makes perfect sense. Also, with all those ms accounts tied to your IP, I can’t blame them for the verification lol
I do it for all free services. Like AI where you have daily limits. I thought about VPN but I don’t have the cost. It seems the only trusted free tier VPN is Proton bc they have a paid plan. I read good reviews and it didn’t seem to slow down anything noticeably.
I didn’t mean to sound like I disapproved at all. I’m all for what you’re doing haha I’ve use proton’s free tier. They’re fine. I just don’t really trust any vpn company that’s based in the USA, due to their (completely understandable) requirement to keep USA data collection laws.
Proton is Swiss I believe.
The only thing i use A MS account for is Minecraft And thats my only exception.
I recently set up a new GitHub account and it had the same crap. And you have to get 3 in a row correct. I got so frustrated and I was cursing enough that my wife came into my office to make sure I was okay.
I forget where I heard that these are actually used to help train AI, but I don’t doubt they are somehow.
worse than Roblox?
Are…are the hackers actually deterred by these…things? Are they not accessing the data in some other way?
