• Dark Arc@social.packetloss.gg
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      I mean it installs a rootkit on your computer that gives them full control over everything including what you type, hear, and see as well as the ability to record what you’ve previously typed and said. It could at any moment also fully disable your computer (as well as millions of other computers) rendering them useless.

      Just because they haven’t used it that way, don’t assume they can’t or won’t.

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      5 days ago

      I mean, there’s always been speculation that Vanguard is spyware. There’s absolutely no need or justification for always-on cheat detection.

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        What speculation? It’s literally spyware. You are giving it full low level access to your processor.

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          Don’t get me wrong, Vanguard is BS, and I quit playing riot games because of it. However, simply having low level access isn’t sufficient to classify it as spyware, otherwise drivers would be spyware. I still haven’t seen any evidence that it currently does anything nefarious with that access, which means it’s quite unlikely it’s being used for mass surveillance.

          To me, there are 2 problems: 1) It could be used for targeted attacks, and the likelihood anyone would find out is much lower than in a widespread surveillance scenario. 2) It could be used to deploy a massive bot-net.

          I think the US reclassification here is precautionary in nature.

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            Except drivers are designed to interact with hardware and to make it usable, kernel-level anticheats are designed to specifically scan/block/etc software. They are pretty different with their intended purposes, even though they offer the same/similar invasiveness.

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            Exactly. I avoid kernel-level anti-cheat not because of any known spying they do (and honestly, anything w/ user-level privileges can read all your personal data), but that they add yet another attack vector for a bad actor. I highly doubt Vanguard gets as much security scrutiny as drivers, for example.

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                And the lack of a reason for vendors to put security first. “It’s just a game” or whatever, so they’ll do the bare minimum to keep the money flowing.

                Drivers, on the other hand, make or break a sale, because it makes the product look bad. So if a driver gets exploited, customers are likely to buy from a competitor. If that happens w/ a game, players will get pissed but keep playing the game.