• stardust@lemmy.ca
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      30 days ago

      When it comes to the average person it’s more important to be willing to jump to another platform if an alternative comes up than waiting for a perfect one that will likely never appear. Repeating the cycle of joining and leaving I think is better than just staying when it comes to the average person and mainstream platforms.

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        No, not worse. It’s just not decentralized in a meaningful sense, so it suffers from the same enshittification problems that have killed Twitter, Reddit, BoingBoing, Digg, Slashdot…

        Fundamentally, it’s not any worse, but it’s not any better either.

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            I don’t agree that the idiom implies “worse”. In trying to escape being burnt in the frying pan, you’re getting burnt in the fire. Either way, you’re getting burnt.

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              You don’t get to decide how language works.

              It implies going from a bad situation to a worse one, and has from the moment it existed.

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                30 days ago

                Fine. It’s not the right idiom to express the point.

                Point is still valid, even if I initially expressed it poorly.

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                  I think you, and a large number of people on this site, need to accept that the vast majority of people don’t give a shit about FOSS, and many actively view it as a bad thing.

                  Especially a government agency.

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                    This isn’t about FOSS. This is about decentralization. You could make that argument on Reddit or Xitter. Not on Lemmy.

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          So moving from a platform run by a far right, nazi saluting Jackass, to a platform that is building it’s user base at X’s expense is a step backwards?

          Also, Bluesky is run mostly by former Twitter employees, so they know exactly what will happen if they follow in their footsteps.

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            30 days ago

            Bluesky is a step sideways, not forward or back. It kicks the can down the road a few years, but the fundamental concept is doomed. It has been tried, time and time again, and the inevitable result is gross enshittification.

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              30 days ago

              Given how many social media companies have collapsed over the years because they made their service worse, and their user base migrated en masse to other platforms, I don’t think it’s inevitable at all. Senior execs will be well aware of the consequences of that type of behaviour.

              Don’t forget, Bluesky is rising out of the ashes of Twitter, which is a spectacular example of what not to do, and something shareholders will be terrified of.

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                not even just social platforms, so many businesses have risen from the ashes of similar businesses that chased off their customers, then went on to repeat the failures of their predecessors. humans, particularly in positions of power or authority, don’t learn from their own mistakes so why would they ever learn from the mistakes of others.

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                To which I would respond:

                Given how many social media companies have collapsed over the years…

                …it doesn’t seem that “senior execs” are capable of learning the necessary lessons. Quite the contrary, the “senior execs” and most of the (early) shareholders of all these failed companies seem to be doing quite well for themselves, long after the companies have gone belly up.

                Even if they are capable of learning, they don’t seem to care.