I agree 100%. I kinda have to believe people like this can get better because I have good people in my family whose actions and political beliefs are entirely at odds with each other.
Fuck the Murdoch dynasty, all of them. Knowing that people I care about have spent decades watching a 4-hour evening infomercial for fascism is brutal.
Same with friends. But it’s so hopeless trying to get through to them. I know their feeds are filled with “LIBERAL TEARS, IMMIGRANTS BECOMES MILLIONAIRE WITH FOOD STAMPS AND HERES WHY WHITE PEOPLE ARE THE ACTUAL VICTIMS” They see it on their YouTube. Their Twitter. Their Facebook. Their Instagram. Their FOX (self described non news “entertainment” channel) NEWS app. They’re getting hit with propaganda from everywhere, not even counting the decades of Fox that’s infected their family. They’re so incredibly misinformed and I don’t know what way to change their minds. Some times they’ll listen but it never sticks, probably the same way I do when they’re telling me how democrats actually set up any bad thing that happens.
Take specific examples that they care about, prove that it is utter nonsense. Ask how they can still believe all the bullshit if all these examples are nonsense.
They are usually Christians so using Bible versus right back at them and asking when they are going to divorce their spouses and cheat on them and pay for prostitutes and playing up when they decided they support authoritarian communists and where they keep their Russian flags is probably the route to go. They’ll love being labeled communiats and since when they started wanting to emulate the Chinese political system.
Facts, laws, and numbers don’t work on them. Comparing their values to the person they choose to worship is more likely to get them scrambling trying to excuse behavior that isn’t Christian like.
In the end, my receipts don’t matter. It’s fake news. The closest I can get is to make my points using FOX NEWS articles. But there’s often a shit ton of spin on those so I can’t get the really hard hitting facts across. Best example was my trumper friend saying that ICE is going after criminal immigrants and not the good, working ones. I linked the fox news article saying that the ICE commander said everyone’s on the chopping block. I was met with “No, no they can’t do that. They can’t do that. They won’t do that”. They literally live in their own made up reality where the rules are how they interpret them and not how they actually are. Even when their glorified party proves them wrong, time and time again.
God bless my buddy’s hearts. They’re good people but theyre actively getting corrupted and I’m trying at every chance I get to give them a different perspective.
These people are not equipped to handle the cognitive dissonance of having their beliefs challenged. They will simply compartmentalize away any contradictions so they don’t have to think about it. If you try to force the issue they become vitriolic and refuse to engage with you any further, usually resorting to character defamation to label you as someone who is not trustworthy and can be readily disregarded.
Though, I have realized that if you’re still a Trump supporter, you’re either ill informed or are a terrible person
The USA is literally threatening to invade most of its closest allies. Fuck anyone who’s ill informed
“I didn’t realise we were going to invade Poland :0”
“Actually you forgot Poland.”
George W. BUSH
I agree 100%. I kinda have to believe people like this can get better because I have good people in my family whose actions and political beliefs are entirely at odds with each other.
Fuck the Murdoch dynasty, all of them. Knowing that people I care about have spent decades watching a 4-hour evening infomercial for fascism is brutal.
Same with friends. But it’s so hopeless trying to get through to them. I know their feeds are filled with “LIBERAL TEARS, IMMIGRANTS BECOMES MILLIONAIRE WITH FOOD STAMPS AND HERES WHY WHITE PEOPLE ARE THE ACTUAL VICTIMS” They see it on their YouTube. Their Twitter. Their Facebook. Their Instagram. Their FOX (self described non news “entertainment” channel) NEWS app. They’re getting hit with propaganda from everywhere, not even counting the decades of Fox that’s infected their family. They’re so incredibly misinformed and I don’t know what way to change their minds. Some times they’ll listen but it never sticks, probably the same way I do when they’re telling me how democrats actually set up any bad thing that happens.
Take specific examples that they care about, prove that it is utter nonsense. Ask how they can still believe all the bullshit if all these examples are nonsense.
They are usually Christians so using Bible versus right back at them and asking when they are going to divorce their spouses and cheat on them and pay for prostitutes and playing up when they decided they support authoritarian communists and where they keep their Russian flags is probably the route to go. They’ll love being labeled communiats and since when they started wanting to emulate the Chinese political system.
Facts, laws, and numbers don’t work on them. Comparing their values to the person they choose to worship is more likely to get them scrambling trying to excuse behavior that isn’t Christian like.
Not in my experience. To many of these mfs worship Paul (and now Trump) instead of Jesus.
In the end, my receipts don’t matter. It’s fake news. The closest I can get is to make my points using FOX NEWS articles. But there’s often a shit ton of spin on those so I can’t get the really hard hitting facts across. Best example was my trumper friend saying that ICE is going after criminal immigrants and not the good, working ones. I linked the fox news article saying that the ICE commander said everyone’s on the chopping block. I was met with “No, no they can’t do that. They can’t do that. They won’t do that”. They literally live in their own made up reality where the rules are how they interpret them and not how they actually are. Even when their glorified party proves them wrong, time and time again.
God bless my buddy’s hearts. They’re good people but theyre actively getting corrupted and I’m trying at every chance I get to give them a different perspective.
This.
These people are not equipped to handle the cognitive dissonance of having their beliefs challenged. They will simply compartmentalize away any contradictions so they don’t have to think about it. If you try to force the issue they become vitriolic and refuse to engage with you any further, usually resorting to character defamation to label you as someone who is not trustworthy and can be readily disregarded.