The point is that it doesn’t discredit the original criticism. The guy in the comic is trying to shift the focus from the systemic level to individual consumer habits, and to discredit anyone who doesn’t adhere to perfection. This is a common tactic the right uses, and no matter what level of ethical consumption you do they’ll either still say it anyway or switch to characterizing you as an extremist or some other tact, for instance, the various tactics used to attack vegans and veganism. There is good faith criticism to be made regarding ethical consumption, but there’s also bad faith criticism where it’s used to discredit legitimate criticism, which is what the comic is calling out.
What do you think it’s saying? I’m assuming it’s that the guy is using a flawed argument in situations that make it increasingly obvious, with the third one being utterly ridiculous that he thinks it’s a gotcha.
That is what it’s saying, but that completely contradicts what you said before, that he’s “right” in the first case and “debatable” in the second. The point is he’s wrong in all three and the comic is demonstrating that by applying his logic to increasingly absurd situations.
He’s not totally wrong in the first one. You can buy phones that are more ethically produced than Apple ones. There is a choice to get something better, even if it’s not perfect. In the second one there is no choice to get a different one, but there is a choice not to buy one at all. In the third one there is no choice in any way.
You’re completely missing the point. Whether or not you buy a car that doesn’t have seatbelts, it’s still a good idea for cars to have seatbelts. The criticism of individual choice is irrelevant, it’s ad hominem.
Your interpretation makes no sense at all. As if it’s just a random series of disconnected events as opposed to a clear line of reasoning critiquing the original point. Like, you can’t possibly believe that the author’s intent wasn’t to critique the original point, right? You even said as much.
You could still participate in society and buy cheaper, more ethical phones than Apple ones.
The point is that it doesn’t discredit the original criticism. The guy in the comic is trying to shift the focus from the systemic level to individual consumer habits, and to discredit anyone who doesn’t adhere to perfection. This is a common tactic the right uses, and no matter what level of ethical consumption you do they’ll either still say it anyway or switch to characterizing you as an extremist or some other tact, for instance, the various tactics used to attack vegans and veganism. There is good faith criticism to be made regarding ethical consumption, but there’s also bad faith criticism where it’s used to discredit legitimate criticism, which is what the comic is calling out.
I see it as being a progression of that argument from being right in the first one, debatable in the second and completely wrong in the third.
That’s not what the comic is saying at all. What do you think the message of the comic is? That feudalism is bad?
What do you think it’s saying? I’m assuming it’s that the guy is using a flawed argument in situations that make it increasingly obvious, with the third one being utterly ridiculous that he thinks it’s a gotcha.
That is what it’s saying, but that completely contradicts what you said before, that he’s “right” in the first case and “debatable” in the second. The point is he’s wrong in all three and the comic is demonstrating that by applying his logic to increasingly absurd situations.
He’s not totally wrong in the first one. You can buy phones that are more ethically produced than Apple ones. There is a choice to get something better, even if it’s not perfect. In the second one there is no choice to get a different one, but there is a choice not to buy one at all. In the third one there is no choice in any way.
You’re completely missing the point. Whether or not you buy a car that doesn’t have seatbelts, it’s still a good idea for cars to have seatbelts. The criticism of individual choice is irrelevant, it’s ad hominem.
It’s the same point but my interpretation makes more sense. You don’t need a 4 panel comic for a simple criticism of ad hominem.
Your interpretation makes no sense at all. As if it’s just a random series of disconnected events as opposed to a clear line of reasoning critiquing the original point. Like, you can’t possibly believe that the author’s intent wasn’t to critique the original point, right? You even said as much.
That’s fair, but I don’t think that’s the common or intended interpretation.
I only buy second hand phones. Cheaper, more ethical and more ecological
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