• WallEx@feddit.de
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    1 year ago

    So it’s the same if you have to build 5 times as many solar panels to do the same thing? It’s just not.

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      1 year ago

      Now we’re in the “pro-BEV bullshit” zone. Batteries won’t magically solve all transportation needs, nor solve the energy storage requirements of the grid. Alternatives still have to exist anyways, and the total lifecycle efficiency of BEVs isn’t that special. In a lot of cases, avoiding excessive use of batteries will save you energy. So pursuing alternatives will not need radically more solar panels.

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          1 year ago

          If you can admit that, you can admit there can be superior options to BEVs.

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            1 year ago

            Admit what? That they aren’t perfect? Yeah sure, nothing is. But where is the better option?

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              1 year ago

              E-fuels or hydrogen made from green energy. With the latter you won’t even give up on the future being EVs. They are the actually sustainable forms of transportation that everyone can accept.

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                1 year ago

                … But they are way more inefficient then batteries, which is what I’ve been saying all this time.

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                  1 year ago

                  Which doesn’t matter, something I’ve been saying all this time.

                  And the efficiency of batteries has been massively exaggerated too.

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                    1 year ago

                    energy prices are far from stable and efficiency plays a huge role in the feasibility of a technology.

                    The efficiency of e fuels is far below hydrogen and hydrogen is still a lot worse than battery.