Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Thursday that Russia had trapped the remaining Ukrainian soldiers in its western Kursk region, where they have held on for more than seven months in one of the most important battles of the war.

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    17 hours ago

    Europe, I hope y’all are doing the whole “speak quietly and carry a big stick.”

    Because if Putin steam rolls Ukraine, he’s not stopping there, and now he has the US government under his control too.

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      3 hours ago

      Europe is doing the opposite of “speak quietly and carry a big stick”

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        5 hours ago

        Finland isn’t what I’m quite so worried about yet.

        Its more Estonia. And Latvia. And Moldova, Romania, Poland, Chezchia, Slovakia, Serbia, Bulgaria, etc.

        Hungary and Belarus I think we can say are pretty much already Russia.

        Also I didn’t know about the Kaliningrad Oblast, anyone know what the fuck happened there?

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          Yeah kaliningrad oblast came like as a surprise to me as well some years back. Like what the fuck is a piece of Russia doing there?!

          Estonia is a EU and NATO country. It’s not part of NORDEFCO but we still have exercised with them extensively I believe especially after joining NATO.

          Finland is the backbone of the Nordic defense.

          And that’s my favourite role. In the army we won the rope-pulling contest with me as anchor. The other teams wore fucking boots while we had sneakers on (because dress code says no boots with exercise gear) so they broke military dress code and accused us of cheating.

          I know I wasn’t the strongest member of our group (we had one EU judo champion who could toss a 10-20kg exercise ball to the ceiling of a sports hall like 10m high), but I was the most unyielding one with the most spirit and anger and that’s infectious.

          I like to think I channeled the spirit of Óðinn:

          As mentioned above, Odin’s name can be translated as “Master of Ecstasy.” His Old Norse name, Óðinn, is formed from two parts: first, the noun óðr, “ecstasy, fury, inspiration,” and the suffix -inn, the masculine definite article, which, when added to the end of another word like this, means something like “the master of” or “a perfect example of.” The eleventh-century historian Adam of Bremen confirms this when he translates “Odin” as “The Furious.”[1] Óðr can take countless different forms. As one saga describes Odin, “when he sat with his friends, he gladdened the spirits of all of them, but when he was at war, his demeanor was terrifyingly grim.”

          https://norse-mythology.org/gods-and-creatures/the-aesir-gods-and-goddesses/odin/

          (as a side note odin was way gayer than ppl think and slightly genderfluid and I respect all lgtb and im not a racist, it’s just something you have to mention when talking about norse myths)

          And thats wholly tangential but it’s what I bring to the table… Let Vanja fucking try opening up another front.

          “Silmien Välliin” - Finnish Anti-Russian Song

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            Fascinating! Thanks for this mythology lesson. I once read that although referring to the same god, “Wodan” is Odin on a grumpy day. Would you agree (I believe it was a modern Norwegian practitioner saying this, it was a long time ago, though).

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              I’m not an expert. It’s think the name might just be derivative, but obviously with the time it takes for a name to change, their aspects might change as well.

              It is a fascinating site.

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      If Europe really wanted to stop Russia, they would’ve sent armies into Ukraine.

      “We don’t want to escalate because it might start WW3!”

      But Putin is going to attack you guys anyways when he’s done with Ukraine.

      “Yes, but this is the rhetoric dumbasses have been told to peddle so that’s what we’re doing!”

      I still remember when people said Ukraine shouldn’t mine its border because it would be seen as “escalation.” Funny how the wrong-crowd always scatters like roaches after the damage is done.

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      15 hours ago

      They can’t win without additional troops.

      I wish I could say I don’t know why you people don’t realize it, but I get it now.

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        11 hours ago

        The Russia cannot win without additional troops either. And they cannot get those.

        Eventually the Russia’s economy will collapse, and at that point it will lose the war and has to leave Ukraine.

        Ukraine cannot win the war, but has enough support that it also will not lose it. The Russia cannot win the war, and doesn’t have enough support to avoid eventually losing it.

        Once the Russia has lost the war, it has to leave Ukraine, because then there’s nothing it can do to stop Ukrainian forces from taking its territories back.

        It is irrelevant that Ukraine cannot win the war, since the Russia is doomed to lose it.

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          The Russia cannot win without additional troops either. And they cannot get those.

          That’s… simply not true

          I can tell you’re a victim of the propaganda mill and get visibly uncomfortable whenever someone says something that goes against your indoctrination.

          Actually, reading the rest of your post is kind of hilarious. The absolute delusions you people believe are truly a sight to behold.

          Glad I paid attention in social studies. It’s a shame you did not.

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            Okay, any idea of what the propaganda mill has told me, then?

            The facts at hand tell that in the latter half of year 2024 Ukraine received zero military aid from USA. Because of that, the Russia was able to advance at a surpricingly fast pace. Because of this, they managed to conquer as much as 0.7 % of Ukraine’s total territory during that year. Under one percent. When they were fast.

            They almost never use tanks anymore, but ATV’s, because they have only the tanks they are able to produce. Which is about 30 per month. Which is a lot, to be honest, but it’s easy for Ukraine to destroy at least one Russian tank per day. And that makes 30 per month as well…

            The Russia has had a stable recruitment ability of 25 000 to 35 000 soldiers per month, and are currently losing 1000 to 1400 per day. That makes about 40 000 soldiers lost per month. By far not all of those are deaths, but all of those are permanent losses through very serious wounds or death. When you recruit 35 000 soldiers and lose 40 000, you are not gaining any additional troops. You are keeping their numbers approximately stable, but keeping them approximately stable is what Ukraine is able to do as well. Neither side is able to get additional troops.

            Please tell me. What is it that the propaganda mill has told me? I did not feel uncomfortable from what you said, because you said nothing with actual content. You said “simply not true”, and left it to that.

            Please tell me something that makes me feel uncomfortable.

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              There you go just looking for an excuse to spew your propagandized talking points.

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    18 hours ago

    Man, what a peace-loving guy! Damn Ukraine for not stopping the war! >:/

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    20 hours ago

    So… Let me check I get this right on the timeline.

    America Europe Ukraine meet, agree to a 30 day ceasefire. Agree this tests if Russia is serious about ending the war. Putin gobbs off, surrender or die.

    Categorical that Russia is not serious about ending the war.

    Next steps boys

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      11 hours ago

      Because they need Ukrainian resources or the Russian state goes bankrupt and that’s the end of Russia.

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      16 hours ago

      The next step is to get Putin to a table and poison or radiate him and end it that way.

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      1. America Europe Ukraine meet, agree to a 30 day ceasefire. Agree this tests if Russia is serious about ending the war. Putin gobbs off, surrender or die.