• thericofactor@sh.itjust.works
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    11 hours ago

    What if everyone would transfer their PayPal credit to a regular bank account on the same day? Would that bring Paypal value down?

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      hard to estimate, but probably not. I think what makes such companies go down is when the investors fear their money might be lost. that is, when the company is not worth much compared to their invested money.

      So only, when the user count is dropping, that would be the case for paypal.

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    13 hours ago

    That would be good for the EV conversion market. Since they use a lot of Tesla motors and battery packs.

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    15 hours ago

    If I had one I’d keep it, vandalise it myself and turn it into an anti-musk advertising vehicle. It’s a bad idea to waste the resources that went into making them.

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    While it’s nice to protest outside of the Tesla dealership, people should be protesting outside of US embassies, and while they are at it, protest outside of the Chinese and Russian embassies too. Block them in.

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      Trump and musk couldn’t care less about protests outside embassies.

      The Tesla protests are hurting musk.

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      People are doing. But embassies tend to be in capital cities but Tesla dealerships are everywhere.

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    23 hours ago

    Hell yeah, I’ve been wanting a model 3 for years. Glad politics will bring that dream to a reality 😀 lets go electric vehicles!!! One less gas guzzler on the road.

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    23 hours ago

    I know this the unpopular opinion at the moment, but what electric sedan is better than a model 3? The rest of the producers have all decided we want to drive crossovers or boxes and simply cannot figure out how to make a frunk.

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      The first few times sitting in or driving a tesla was cool and novel. But after you have used the fart simulator app a few times, and let your sister in law post a few pictures. It’s just a car that takes a lot of space in small parking spots.

      It is low quality, breaks often, expensive to repair, barely fits parking spots, expensive to buy, has paid for addons that have been coming soon the last 10 years

      There is a lot of other electric vehicles I’d rather have

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        2025 Model 3: 186"L x 73"W x 57"H
        2025 Audi A4 Sedan: 188"L x 73"W x 56"H
        2025 Chevy Malibu: 194"L x 73"W x 57"H
        2004 Ford Taurus: 198"L x 73"W x 56"H
        2025 Mercedes CLA: 185"L x 73"W x 55"H
        2025 Nissan Leaf: 176"L x 71"W x 61"H
        2025 Audi A3 Sedan: 177"L x 72"W x 56"H

        What do you mean the Model 3 is huge? It’s small by American standards and standard by European executive compacts. Compared to what, a Leaf? If the Leaf had a sedan counterpart, it’d be the same size as the 3. Vice versa if the 3 had a hatch version, as a hatch is often about 9" shorter than a sedan of the same model. Of all the things against Tesla, I can’t say I’ve heard anyone call the 3 big. If you’re not in North America, I’m not familiar with the compacts and hatches, but that’s why I threw in the Germans I know

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    I have one that’s nearly 7 years old, fully paid for and still works well. I hate having to own any car and environmentally, the best car is the one you already have. Getting an equivalent car at a reduced trade-in price would cost 20k and I would do it on principle if I could afford to.

    BMW and Mercedes both supported Nazi’s during the holocaust and I believe they should receive the same treatment but it’s been the better part of a century and they’re still here. I’d go so far as to argue that cars are just consumerized war vehicles that a civil society has limited use for given the potential benefits of mass transit.

    Oil companies bribed and lobbied against clean, efficient, exciting transit decades ago and were all poorer for it.

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      BMW and Mercedes both supported Nazi’s during the holocaust and I believe they should receive the same treatment but it’s been the better part of a century and they’re still here

      If people knew what the Nazis were planning to do back then, they might have boycotted BMW and Mercedes too, strangling them in the crib. Americans know what Nazis are; they were literally our biggest enemy and our greatest military victory, and the vast majority of Americans oppose Nazis. I think the only hesitation seems to be that people either don’t believe Elon actually is a Nazi, or that they think he’s just “TrOlLiNg ThE LiBs!!!11”.

      Getting an equivalent car at a reduced trade-in price would cost 20k and I would do it on principle if I could afford to.

      That really sucks, and I don’t think you are a Nazi… but you’re driving a BMW in 1933. You’re not going to get any sympathy from people on the right side of history.

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      The difference between BMW and Mercedes, and Tesla right now is that BMW and Mercedes are not currently supporting a fascist. Germany went through decades of reform and reconciliation for its fascist choices. America, and particularly Tesla whose CEO is instigating and wholeheartedly supporting the early stages of the current political reshaping, is currently going one inch further into fascism every day.

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      How is it in any way relevant what German car makers were doing 80+ years ago? Unless you also think all modern-day Germans should be “cancelled”.

      Apart from that I agree, the American car lobby has been terrible for public transport development and green energy

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        Because they and many other modern car companies supported nazi genocide and fascism for money that I don’t think it’s a coincidence we’re seeing the same with Tesla. Time doesn’t change the past.

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          I agree that public transport could be much better. But there are a lot of people that don’t live in a city and no amount of public transport is going to reach everywhere. There still needs to be vehicles of some type. I wish more rural roads in this country had bike lanes

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          Unless it’s the same people in charge of the company as it was in 1941 then it doesn’t matter. Everyone knows that many German companies have a terrible past, but they’ve long since taken a clear stance against it. There is literally no correlation between these German car brands and Tesla. It matters what they do today (and possibly the recent past).

          If you want to boycott things over the distant past you literally couldn’t use anything.

          Tesla deserves this because of Elon’s current actions. If he steps or gets removed and Tesla continues to operate with a different philosophy there should be no issue with them in, say, 15 years.

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            I disagree on it mattering, and there are plenty of correlations including executives with histories across the auto industry. These companies aren’t as nimble or efficient as their branding suggests - they’ve operated with the same tactics for decades and the holocaust was not that long ago. Id argue the only thing that’s changed is corporate rebranding & propaganda because a new image was profitable, not because they magically became altruistic. Companies that escaped their problematic moments should not have escaped them - the fact that they did is itself problematic. ‘I’m sorry’ is not payment enough for profiteering off of genocide in my opinion. Well aware of how many companies are problematic, I just think we can do better.

            Focusing on Elon for his actions right now is a great step and focus area tho!

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              So, if the Volkswagen Group car brands all dissolved and the people in charge created a new company that’d be just fine? Why would we boycott a company for what happened 80 years ago? We can just build a wall around Germany then.

              What exactly is problematic? The past has happened and it cannot be changed; how you deal with it is the only question, and the Germans in particular have dealt with it admirably. It only matters what they do with they’re given. Nothing is static, especially not a company which is just a reflection of their owners and employees.

              Would it make you or anyone happier if we drove in Skodas rather than Volkswagens?

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                I agree with some of your points and the only thing I’d add is brands are symbols, and if a brand is left intact after an atrocity what does that say? I don’t think the brands should exist any more than keeping the same people in charge.

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    Who is buying all these Teslas that Tesla owners are all selling because nobody wants a Tesla?

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          im in favor of any company these fuckers were on the board of or were allowed to hold substantial shares of being nationalized as punishment, if we don’t end up with some form of communism or blasted wastelands after all this. The capital class needs to be shown consequences, and if we don’t get guillotines, they need to at least be forced to watch us sautee their balls.

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    I’m so glad that I lost my job in 2016 and had to cancel my Tesla Model 3 reservation. When I eventually got a better paying job in 2017 I played it safe -assumed I could lose it at any moment- and bought a Chevrolet Spark which has served me well.