• canajac@lemmy.ca
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    4 days ago

    Read my lips…Never gonna happen. You don’t get rid of a big brother just because of one mishap. Drumpf will be gone in 28 and the healing will immediately begin. I just hope he doesn’t die before then. JDV is a hillbilly that hillbillies want to disassociate themselves from.

  • nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    5 days ago

    Trump had permanently altered relations with the United States and that, regardless of any future trade deals, there would be “no turning back.”

    “The old relationship we had with the United States based on deepening integration of our economies and tight security and military cooperation is over,” Carney said.

    that sounds pretty bad, but it’s not very specific

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    6 days ago

    This goes for every country, except maybe Russia. Arrogant prick thinks the US doesn’t need anybody else. Those who aren’t rich who think that way will be doing the finding out as a result of his fucking around.

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        5 days ago

        Very difficult, as most traded goods pass through US boundaries via train/truck.

        More “regular” trade agreements between individual states is generally more likely going forward I imagine, but the sort of integrated supply chains that we’ve all benefited from in North America for like… decades and decades… is pretty well toast.

        Eg. the US wants to build their own cars, in country. This means Canada and Mexico will likely also need to build their own cars, in country. Mexico has a bit more of an opportunity to build up integrated supply chains with countries in south america, though they tend to be a bit less stable – the proximity is a win. It’d be really cool to see if they did though – not sure what sorts of free trade agreements are around in the south, honestly.

        Canada is busy trying to shore up agreements/trade with areas like asia and europe, as those are ‘sorta’ the same distance/calculus as shipping things via sea to mexico / south america.

        It’d also be interesting if the waning of the US hegemony results in more western countries trading with traditionally ‘blockaded’ countries. Cuba has long been a Canadian vacation spot, but trade with Cuba has been limited due to US pressure. Given the current state of things, I don’t see why Canada wouldn’t increase trade there. And given the state of Cuba currently, it could be really beneficial for both country’s people.

  • Kobie123@lemmynsfw.com
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    6 days ago

    And the thing i don’t think Americans have accepted yet… there’s no going back. They can vote the democrats back in next year. But we - their traditional allies will never be there for them again.

    America will forever be isolated as untrustworthy.

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      5 days ago

      This is one of the weirdest things anti-maga types have begun spewing.

      Germany started two world wars and they have not been ‘forever isolated as untrustworthy’. I can assure you, the world is laughing at the US and Trump and a lot of countries and groups are angry.

      If you stuck a half decent person in the chair and apologised, retracted tarrifs etc, I’m sure it’d all blow over in a few years.

      Now your internet racially motivated Civil war? Yeah I don’t think you’ll get out of that one

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      5 days ago

      Three times they were given the choice, twice he won and the other time he still had a sizable base of support - even after fucking covid up.

      From now on you just have to be ready for anti-democracy, pro-imperialist, incompetency to take control of the US. They might not even allow a democrat to ever take over the executive branch ever again.

    • Dr. Moose@lemmy.world
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      6 days ago

      If a proper revolution happens US will be taken back for sure. The problem is that Americans are way too comfortable for any major change and have been for a long time.

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        I’ve been seeing “comfortable” a lot, but I think honestly it’s less comfort and more confusion. I know it’s popular to portray us all as lazy, drinking our Big Gulp slushies and watching sportsball, but that’s not the whole picture.

        We all know it sucks, we might call our reps, our friends might go wave some signs…but ultimately we’re culturally unaccustomed to organization, and that part cripples meaningful resistance. As the commenter below me stated, “lack of civic culture” and “hyper individualism” nails it.

        Okay, we all want different things, we all struggle at wildly different randomized shifts because most of us are one missed paycheck away from disaster, how do we know who our friends are? No no, not the “Yeah man, that sucks lol idk.” friends, the ones who will actually fight with you?

        Consequently, we’re suffering a massive lonliness epidemic where a lot of people not only have very little civic ties, they don’t even have a network of reliable companionship! A lot of this is simply thanks to suburban dominance and nowhere left to meet that’s not charging admission.

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          I don’t think that’s particularly a take on americans being lazy but a general issue where developed world populations tend to be more obedient because of they’re stuck in the zone of comfortable compliance.

          China is by far the most extreme example of this. It’s a complete autocracy but also the economy is great and consumerism rampant.

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      6 days ago

      Even the MAGA crowd are aware of this, they just think it’s a good thing. The only thing americans can all agree on is that we have some serious housecleaning to do.

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    6 days ago

    … and it wasn’t our fault either. They literally betrayed us. We helped them with the forest fires and they stabbed us in the back. The fact that there aren’t widespread revolts and mass demonstrations and labour strikes going on in that country right now tells us a lot about the people there and their values.

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      5 days ago

      Oh, there are definitely protests here, you just aren’t hearing about them. They just aren’t making the international news. There are regular, frequent protests on the West Coast of the US, including Hawaii. Pro-federal worker protests, pro-union protests, anti-Trump/Musk protests, pro-canadian protests/celebrations. It’s on our local news often, but it rarely makes international news. People have been doing good work around here too, if you know what I mean. Stuff that enrages the fascists.

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      6 days ago

      While I can’t fault your feelings, a lot of us are unable to do much without going homeless/hungry. Too many of us are living paycheck to paycheck, as by design, to do anything without losing what little they already have.

      There are protests everywhere, the media is just downplaying/intentionally not reporting on them.

      But we are very, very sorry. Many of us have been actively fighting against this fascist bullshit for years, since 2016/17. People like myself have alienated family and friends who support this fascist regime.

      There’s always more someone like me can do, but the tradeoffs are getting worse and worse. It’s easier for me to just leave the country at this point and go to a country that aligns with my views and the way people should be treated.

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        While I can’t fault your feelings, a lot of us are unable to do much without going homeless/hungry.

        So you are waiting for your personal turn on the DOGE chopping block?.. bit of advice, by the time they come for YOU specifically, it will be too late

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        6 days ago

        It’s pretty wild that the median income before tax in the USA is less than the median income in Denmark after tax (based solely on income tax). Just to put things into perspective.

        With that said, it will only get worse for the American people if they don’t get rid of this administatrion, and everything that has made it possible for this administration to do as it does. You think it’s hard to make ends meet now? What about when you don’t have any tradepartners anymore? Or when all your worker rights are stripped away?

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    6 days ago

    As well it should be. Even if we get our act together and elect another sane president, we’ve demonstrated that we’re happy to burn every single bridge we’ve spent so long building, and that it isn’t some one-off fuckup either

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      6 days ago

      The US will have to crawl through the door on the right if they ever want to have any kind of decent relationship with other countries again. And we will NOT be getting our favored status that we’ve enjoyed since the end of WWII back. As the British Empire went, so too does the American Empire.

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      6 days ago

      Border states, snowbird states, and dual citizens are going through it. This is likely the worst diplomatic move in recent American history.

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    6 days ago

    I am reminded of Winston Churchill saying that Americans will do the right thing after they have exhausted all other options.

    I just didn’t quite realize how far “all other options “ could really go.