Apple’s MacBook Pro memory problem is worse than ever::Apple still sells expensive “Pro” computers with just 8GB of RAM and charges a fortune for more.

  • fiah@discuss.tchncs.de
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    11 months ago

    32gb might have been “pro” 5 years ago but not anymore, not when a run of the mill 32gb DDR5 kit can be had for $100

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      11 months ago

      Apple won’t even offer that for the 8GB models, the best you can do for those is pay $400 to get them with 24GB included.
      And obviously everything is soldered and nothing is upgradeable.

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      11 months ago

      Also, have in mind that main memory shared with igpu, so if we talking about memory heavy tasks like 8k video render with masks, effects and stuff, then this memory will be eaten not only by app, but also with gpu encoder. 64gb would be more close to “bearable minimum” but oh well, magic apple ram I guess.

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        11 months ago

        yes, my opinion is that 32gb was the minimum spec for a “pro” system 5 years ago. Nowadays, if 32gb is actually enough as a minimum spec then you’re in “enthusiast” territory in my opinion, not “pro”. Perhaps that’s more telling about my standards as a PC enthusiast though, and about how far PC hardware has come

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          11 months ago

          If you ask me, everyone and everything that’s calling itself a pro isn’t really pro.

          And than again John from finance is a professional who want a MacBook Pro. IT gave him a 8gb pro. John is happy and doesn’t know a damn thing about computers.

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          11 months ago

          Disclaimer: I’m in no way trying to defend Apple here.

          Saying that X amount of RAM (or any other component spec for that matter) is not enough for a “Pro” computer is not really a universal truth or something, you can’t compare people running multiple instances of Docker with people doing photo editing or web dev for example.

          Either of those can be “Pros” within their field, their hardware requirements doesn’t make them professionals or enthusiasts. I know I’m being a bit tangential here, but arguing about the “correct” spec por a Pro computer has always irked me.

          That being said, I agree it’s ridiculous that Apple is shipping $1K+ computers with merely 8GB of RAM. Also, it’s known that Apple’s “pro” devices most of the time just mean they’re just their most expensive tier. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

          • hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            11 months ago

            Also, it’s known that Apple’s “pro” devices most of the time just mean they’re just their most expensive tier. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

            Your lack of knowledge shows. Everyone with at least 2 brain cells and capability to read can understand that this is just plain wrong.

            Macbook pro for example has a CPU cooler inbuilt (first ever on a laptop BTW)

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              11 months ago

              That part of my comment was a bit of an hyperbole tbh, but it’s also true that Apple just slaps the “Pro” moniker to their most expensive tier without always making them deserve it.

              Before the iPhone 15 Pro series, there wasn’t really much “pro” in the Pro models. Same with the iPad Pro, sure they’re way nicer and higher end, but hardly anything “pro” about them.

              And don’t get me started with the new baseline 14 inch MacBook Pro, with a regular M3 and 8GB of RAM.

              • hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                11 months ago

                Yeah I was just joking - since the MBA - MBP difference is basically that MBP has a cooling fan