Peertube needs monetization and the ability for people peer without self-hosting. A torrent client of sorts.
The product, in it’s current form cannot replace Youtube. Youtube gives you traffic, a free place to host even your crappiest footage, and money if enough people start watching it regularly.
Peertube isn’t free, it’s just someone else footing the bill, which breaks under load.
highly likely that many videos will quickly die as well
Ideally, everyone would just post their own stuff from their own disk. As things got popular, the fans would cache it for others. We’d just need the self-hosting angels to help us with discoverability.
Realistically, a quick death is probably a fortunate way to save resources if a video can’t gain traction from being useful or entertaining.
You mentioned with the number of dead torrents that videos would die quickly.
I mentioned that unpopular videos probably should die quickly.
You mentioned that the solution won’t work I suspect your definition of not working is probably different than my definition of not working. But I’m not exactly sure at this point.
By suggest the peeeing app, I’m also suggesting a change to the architecture then I’ve talked about previously, probably have not made clear here.
The peering app works more like a torrent client. It’s not just caching things that you’ve seen, but you can also place your content there.
We would separate the content from the indexing. A peer tube provider could offer both roles. People could store their own data locally or pay the provider a small amount to use their storage. Maybe even IPFS style that would just pin it for you for a fee. It would make the model sustainable.
Everyone is responsible for their own seed content that way. Nobody is required to pay millions of dollars to store a bunch of bullshit for nothing that they don’t care about, which would end up making what monetization that can happen more effective.
Advertisers are just pouring billions of dollars into YouTube. They could have direct payments to smaller providers much easier without all that waste. We just need a sustainable storage method in a way for people to get paid.
Peertube needs monetization and the ability for people peer without self-hosting. A torrent client of sorts.
The product, in it’s current form cannot replace Youtube. Youtube gives you traffic, a free place to host even your crappiest footage, and money if enough people start watching it regularly.
Peertube isn’t free, it’s just someone else footing the bill, which breaks under load.
Seeing the number of dead torrents, it’s highly likely that many videos will quickly die as well
But it would be nice to have a way to seed.
Problem with all federated platforms: which one should people pick? Most instances don’t federate with others
Ideally, everyone would just post their own stuff from their own disk. As things got popular, the fans would cache it for others. We’d just need the self-hosting angels to help us with discoverability.
Realistically, a quick death is probably a fortunate way to save resources if a video can’t gain traction from being useful or entertaining.
The vast majority of videos don’t do well so… that means this solution won’t work for most people
If a video doesn’t do well, it doesn’t need cached because it’s not being watched.
They pay to store their flops.
I was reacting to this:
I’m even more confused now.
You mentioned with the number of dead torrents that videos would die quickly.
I mentioned that unpopular videos probably should die quickly.
You mentioned that the solution won’t work I suspect your definition of not working is probably different than my definition of not working. But I’m not exactly sure at this point.
I thought you wanted videos to only be hosted through peers, without any server storing them, just like torrents
I said that would mean most videos would die
Okay, yeah, that scans.
By suggest the peeeing app, I’m also suggesting a change to the architecture then I’ve talked about previously, probably have not made clear here.
The peering app works more like a torrent client. It’s not just caching things that you’ve seen, but you can also place your content there.
We would separate the content from the indexing. A peer tube provider could offer both roles. People could store their own data locally or pay the provider a small amount to use their storage. Maybe even IPFS style that would just pin it for you for a fee. It would make the model sustainable.
Everyone is responsible for their own seed content that way. Nobody is required to pay millions of dollars to store a bunch of bullshit for nothing that they don’t care about, which would end up making what monetization that can happen more effective.
Advertisers are just pouring billions of dollars into YouTube. They could have direct payments to smaller providers much easier without all that waste. We just need a sustainable storage method in a way for people to get paid.