• Lettuce eat lettuce@lemmy.ml
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    10 months ago

    “When you engage in actual fighting, if victory is long in coming, then men’s weapons will grow dull and their ardor will be damped. If you lay siege to a town, you will exhaust your strength.”

    -Sun Tzu, The Art of War

    Putin will fail, as so many before him have, for the same reasons. Arrogance and pride have destroyed many warmongers, he will be no exception.

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      10 months ago

      Id be treating it like a sport event were it not for the unimaginable magnitude of human suffering

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        10 months ago

        … don’t fuck words up. That’s what Netanyahu does, be better. A siege is a specific thing.

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            10 months ago

            That’s at least closer to accurate. But a 25 year siege would’ve starved 99% of the people there to death, maybe ~23-24 years ago. Unless you can think of a way to feed the whole population with that tiny bit of land for a couple decades.

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                10 months ago

                I’ve never heard of that historic event (or the city itself, for that matter), so I looked it up:

                • Ceuta is a city on the north coast of Africa across the strait from Gibraltar. It’s currently an autonomous city owned by Spain (and Morocco is apparently still pissed off about that).

                • The siege @Andrzej is apparently referring to happened from 1694 to 1727, with a brief interruption in 1720-1721 when defenders’ reinforcements showed up, forced the attackers to retreat to Tétouan, tried to capture that city for a few months, and then gave up and left again.

                • Apparently, the reason it lasted so long without succeeding is that Ceuta was getting resupplied by sea. In other words, the lack of accompanying naval blockade made it kind of a shitty siege.

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            10 months ago

            A naval strategy designed to interdict sea transport to a specific area.

            Regardless, there is neither a siege nor a blockade that has been going on for anything even remotely close to 75 years. There is a proper siege occuring there, an actual by-the-book one, but it started fairly recently. Otherwise all the people in Gaza would have starved to death a long time ago, since they can’t grow enough food on that land to feed them all.