To be clear, I am extremely pro-immigration, but many of the immigration policies as written are tools used to suppress wages. This is the reason we see so many immigrants, often with degrees and training we refuse to recognize in Canada, in low paying, minimum wage jobs. I personally had the pleasure of working with a wonderful woman from the middle east who was a qualified teacher, stuck working 30 hours a week in a grocery store deli because we refused to recognize her degree or decade of experience. She spoke perfect English, was incredibly pleasant, and visibly intelligent and well-mannered, but she’s a brown immigrant, so fuck it, minimum wage for her.

We can take immigrants at the rate we have been while not using them to further wealth inequalities. But as a friend of mine says, the purpose of a system is what it does, and the current iteration is not about creating a multi-cultural nation.

For additional clarity, this isn’t to say that you’re wrong and immigration isn’t being used as a scapegoat. I’d just argue that the problem is more substantial than simply calling the issue a scapegoat suggests. There is a real problem, but it’s not in that we’re accepting immigrants at all; it’s the conditions we’ve agreed to accept them under.

Inside Job said it best: “Libertarians are just anarchists in a suit and a tie!”

Most of the “anarchists” you see on Lemmy aren’t the British punk rocker “let’s build a functioning world for the people” anarchists. They’re the “there should be no rules so survival of the fittest can kill the unworthy” kind. And in a state-capitalist system, they mean the poors either need to start generating capital for the state, or starve to death.

Remember, these are the same people who say that China has no homeless people, and criticize the US for having for-profit prisons, while somehow glossing over that their economy is being held up by the “work” camps holding all of China’s “totally not homeless, we gave them a 6ft cube” population. Logic is already dead to these people.

A Ukrainian student told me this week about how their parents left Ukraine because of the war. They also explained that their family speaks Russian at home because their mother wasn’t allowed to speak Ukranian.

I told them they’re a very obvious psyop planted by the American media conglomerate. Russia has never oppressed a population and the only war is a hunt for the dangerous nazis of the Ukraine.

/s because you never fucking know anymore.

Oh, absolutely, World News is filled with people praising the west for cracking down on protests, they’re clearly very pro-government.

/s and fuck off with your nonsense. This place is incredibly critical of basically every decision a major government makes.

Man, I’m not happy about it, but I can’t get quality Internet in my location, so I think? I am happy to have a Starlink competitor that isn’t openly a neo-nazi, even if it is my second least favorite well-known billionaire. Or maybe third, pending whether or not you believe Trump is as wealthy as he claims to be.

God, this timeline has set my bar so fucking low. Essential services like Internet need to be made public ASAP.

What? China acting like an Imperialist Dictstorship? But that’s only something that happens in disgusting capitalist Western nations, never in glorious, Communist China!

/s, before I’m mistaken for one of the Tankies that are, I am sure, about to blow up this thread.

Bless.

Motherfuckers around here parrotting lies just because they mesh well with their pre-establushed hate boner.

You’ve literally got elites starving people, handing some of them some table scraps in exchange for cracking some skulls for them and these people talk like every single one of them is just as bad and there’s no possibility that they’re getting exploited too.

The only war is class war. The self-described communists would recognize that, if they weren’t imperial fascists in disguise.

What the fuck do you mean some people don’t have an inner monologue. How do they… Think thoughts? I literally cannot comprehend how they work through thoughts.

I think there’s a huge difference between an intentional allegory used as an attack on a marginalized group, and a word being used to durogatorily refer to a non-living, non-feeling group of machines which are actively damaging the world.

yea, i guess someone saying “screws will not replace us” or “13% of the code, 50% of the bugs” (both real things i’ve seen people say)

I would agree that these things are not okay, becuase they’re imitating insults that literally only exist to put forward racist ideology, and I’d tell anyone who used them around me as much.

cause it’s the same shit with clanker and other assorted nonsense, you’re making racist jokes but swapping racialized people for an acceptable target. but guess what, it’s still racism! you’re still doing a racist joke!

So, how about “chud” then, intended to refer to right-wing-minded hate mongers? Or, here’s a better one, how about when we call right-wing extremists nazis as a durogatory insult? I mean they’re certainly not all members of the third reich. We’re using the term to equate them to something they strictly aren’t, even if they share more ideology than is okay. We’re still using words to categorize groups of people, and using them in intentionally insulting ways. Such durogatory terms are a part of our natural language. They’re not nice, sure, but I don’t want to be nice to people who are actively calling for violence against marginalized groups. But most importantly, we don’t think of these words as slurs. Slurs are durogatory terms that target marginalized groups, unlike “chud,” “nazi,” or yes, “clanker.”

I think there’s far too much nuance here to make blanket insinuations like “durogatory terms used to refer to things we don’t like are stand-ins for racist remarks.” But considering some of the other connections you’ve seen people make, I can certainly understand the trepidation.

Slurs target a marginalized group. “Clanker” does not target a marginalized group, because generative AI is not part of a marginalized group. It is not even alive, therefore it is not a slur in the sense you’re equating it to.

Please don’t call other people “clueless” if you don’t understand the things you’re getting worked up over. Equating non-thinking computer processing models to oppressed minorities is doing far more damage than anyone using the term “clanker,” ironically or otherwise.

Gottem’.

As a Canadian teacher, I’ve met so many Ukrainian refugee families and seen the result of the trauma caused by the Russian invasion first hand. Knowing that these fascist loving tankies are out here spreading such abhorrent lies and propaganda fills me with an overwhelming sense of hatred on behalf of the children that I watch struggle every day to find some feeling of safety, and believe that this is now their home.

I will take a dig at these malicious fucks every single time I see them attempt to pulls their lies from the dredges of .ml and plaster them on any community that isn’t in their sphere of influence. And I take great pleasure in watching Yog and his Ilk writhe every time they realize they can’t just rule 1 me to make the truth stop flowing.

You’re saying Marx while advocating for a Stalin-style dictatorship. Any proletariat uprising that depends on a separate class to perform in any position of dictatorship is a fascist - as was the case with Russia - or capitalist - as in China - regime in disguise.

I have never claimed to support any form of liberalism. That was a stance you imposed on me when I attacked your politics.

But, I digress, you kept it civil, I’ll take the opportunity to flip my attitude and do the same. While I still do not respect your politics, everyone deserves proper care, and everyone deserves to rest. I genuinely do hope you heal well.

So you agree? Xi Jiping is a dictator?

My friend, if you think dictatorship is a progressive step towards communism, I have a bridge you can hand ownership of to the state.

For someone who wants to try and play semantics, you’re quite quick to throw yourself, and your argument, under the bus. Perhaps pick a game you’re good at. You’re embarrassing your glorious leader over here.

Lmfao, valid. Ty for noting the autocorrect typo.

Of course I’m angry. Tankies defending a state-capitalist autocracy pisses me off, as it should any rational, progressive human being. The “Internet tough-guy calling people angry” schtick doesn’t dissuade china’s aggression to the sovereign nation of Taiwan, un-genocide any Ugyhur lives, or free China’s “totally not homeless” population out of the concentration camps the state uses to hold up their economy. My anger is well directed, and your attempt to belittle that isn’t the “own” that you and your fascist ilk seem to believe it is.

Fuck the States. This thread isn’t about them, their history of racism, or their rapid descent into fascism. This thread is about China disappearing a dissenter for “reeducation,” and this conversation is about how you’re a fresh account, happy to dismiss any criticism of your glorious fascist state as “American propaganda” with no logic other than “they said stuff I don’t like so it must be an American psyop.” No amount of whataboutism will change that you’re a dishonest actor, openly mocking one imperialist nation, while shilling for another.

Account created one week ago and has literally only ever bothered to post in a thread that calls out fascist China for doing horrible fascist things?

Which one of you hexbear, .ml fake-ass leftist nutjobs is hiding behind this account?

Skibidi toilet is this generations “badger badger badger.”

Yes, some of the memes kids are absorbing is absolute brainrot. So were some of the memes I absorbed growing up.

Good on you.

“You can have peace. Just surrender to our rule!”

Reminder that bullying exists from the school yard all the way to international politics.