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I think wet wipe would be best, and it’s my favorite option.
Yes and let’s put ID verification on anything that might have curses too. Can’t risk a parent not sheltering their child hard enough.
They nearly all used, your inability to understand how they’re used does not make it less dangerous. I’ve sat here and spoon fed you information over and over and you are at the point of asking for anecdotal evidence. You’ve shown yourself to not be knowledgeable about the subject at all, but fully willing to act like you are lol.
According to the market. That’s how reasonable prices are arrived at. It’s this little thing called an economy.
I’m not saying stealing is OK, I’m just being realistic. If you charge $200 a month for Netflix people will steal it. You can get upset and rant all you want, that’s reality. People refuse to be charged more and more for the same thing, there is a breaking point.
Also, it’s not stealing. This argument has been had and proved false. The large number of people who pirate content are very unlikely to have ever paid for it. It’s not stealing vs buying, it’s pirating vs never watching. The outcome of pirating or never watching is the same to the creators.
Right now I pay for Netflix, Hulu, HBO Max and Sunday pass. I’m paying for plenty. You’re just too ruled by your emotions to have an actual conversation, so you make wild assumptions and throw insults instead.
urgh, there are no NEW vulnerabilities in an old OS that does not get updates. What you are for some reason conflating (or using semantics) is newly DESCOVERED vulnerabilities.
Jesus, so you’re saying there will be no new ones made, now that is semantics. A vulnerability never discovered might as well not exist. But guess what you’re also not getting, fixes for all those vulnerabilities. So your stance of “you get no updates, but you also don’t get new vulnerabilities” really means “new vulnerabilities will continue to be discovered but you’ll never get updates for them. They will just be published and known by all, like a guide book on how to pwn you.”
The same argument can be used for current OSs (here from that same site as you provided:
Not it can’t, what are you talking about? New OSs get updates to address these issues. An old OS never has them addressed, but known by the world, which is a huge security risk.
Just please show me one report of some home user in the last 5 years who was a victim due to an out of support OS.
If you need an anecdotal instance of a home user (totally ignoring businesses for some reason) then you don’t have any concept of how these attacks work. Do you remember bleeding heart? Remember how it was used for years and never know? Hell “CVE-2022-22047” was only 2 years ago, and that was an elevated privileges attack, that could take down a whole company.
But ok, you need one that effects home users. How about this one: https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2023-23697
It allows printer jobs sent to the home PC to run any code they would like. This means pulling info from your PC or monitoring it.
You’re correct. Theft has nothing to do with the economy.
Ummm theft, aka shrink, is very much a part of any business.
Hiring theft prevention is an entire field of work around this very concept. How can you say theft has nothing to do with the economy when there is an entire industry around theft prevention…
It doesn’t matter what they charge when everyone steals it for $0.
You missed the part where people stop stealing if the price is reasonable. It’s the reason why pirating went way down when Netflix first came out. People are willing to pay, not be taken advantage of. Are you not reading these comments, people saying they will pirate if there is another hike? There is clearly a line, if they cross it then they lose customers.
You said there would be no new vulnerabilities. https://mander.xyz/comment/4923077
“On one hand yes, no more updates. On the other hand, no more new vulnerability and day 0 exploits.”
You said exactly that.
Also these are not all found by white hats. And those vulnerabilities are what is used in an attack. Those are the tools and gaps being exploited. And that list always grows. I’m beginning to think you don’t understand security well enough to be making these claims.
Lol no. That’s not how an economy works. When you sell less of a thing you then have to adjust price to make it favorable again. Companies aren’t just going to say “If we can’t charge $350 a month we might as well just turn off this massive money machine.” No, they will charge $200 and accept making less money over making no money.
I mean, most of this is wrong?
What are you reading for 3 hours about a VPN?
Why do you need to know about ports? You can literally put shows on a flash drive and plug it in.
A stand alone PC, why? What? Hell I torrent from my phone sometimes.
A lot of this can be done, but this is not the bar for entry by any means.
I think people forget that it happens often. Remember napster/sharebear/lime wire. People learn when motivated.
I’ll give you a reason, pirating. Pirating with obfuscated networks (VPN, onion, etc) will never die. People just put it down because the convenience was worth the price. When it no longer is, ships will sail the seas again, and having everything already digital in these services will make it that much easier.
First off, saying that a system will never have a new vulnerability discovered is beyond naive. It’s the whole reason LTS versions of products exist. To be on a version that constantly is kept up with as new vulnerabilities are discovered. Just because you don’t see them and don’t run in those circles doesn’t mean they don’t exist. So saying something like “there won’t be any new vulnerabilities” is just wrong.
And sure. Here’s a list I found after 10 seconds of research.
And here’s another broken down by year, citing 62 found this year.
New vulnerabilities can still be discovered. And if an especially nasty one pops up they very well could run a campeign, using that new exploit, to target that OS version.
Ummm… The goals he sets are… Not good. Doesn’t matter how hard you work if your hard work is destroying a company.
Bruh, it’s my right to be bit as an American. You libtards said my body my choice, well, our turn!
Or something equally insane.
Eventually could be a while, and during that time they don’t have to worry. Also, without it fully tanking and limping along, many will stay and have stayed. This removes the need for an immediate replacement and hurts the possible success of one as celebrities, companies, artists, etc can and do just stay on Twitter.
I mean, maybe a better replacement does come. But just like reddit, it takes a long time and not everyone will actually leave. Now like reddit, it’s just full of BS and has fragmented the community. If the goal was to tear down a platform where people can organize while not fully killing it (preventing the immediate need for a replacement) then he’s doing a good job.
Yes he could be just an idiot, but all throughout history evil men have done evil things and used their “ignorance” as an excuse. People calling you stupid is much easier to manage than people calling you evil.
I think it’s more than destroy the business, it’s to totally delegitimize the platform and flood it with people who would ruin any legit discourse.
Ok now spend years of your life and your money making a thing that everyone just gets for free instead of paying you for. See if you feel the same way then.