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Oh that’s good to know, thanks. I wonder if it was something special for my instance, or perhaps using Blokada (I thought there were no ads in it, but I can’t imagine running a phone without that:-), or something else entirely. If I hadn’t moved to PieFed already I would have submitted a bug report. Perhaps I still should if it would help others.

But your scenario at least lessens the projected scenarios of who may be affected, which is good for the sake of making the Fediverse easier to use by more people:-).

Those who know…

I had loads of communication problems trying to use Voyager on Android - I wonder if it was b/c it may not work as well for non-Lemmy.World accounts? (the one I tried to have it work with was on Discuss.Online) Like I would reply to someone but not be able to see my reply, or receive a notification and not be able to see their message to me, and refreshing did not work, nor did simply waiting minutes of time, though force-quitting the app and reloading always did.

Now I switched to PieFed so it doesn’t matter, but basically I think you have to just download apps and try them until you find one you like b/c there’s always going to be something.

That’s a really good illustration but also I wanted to point out that it’s not merely some people choosing to be exploitative - though there is no doubt that the likes of Zuckerberg and Bezos and the Musk are that way, ofc - but rather the system being geared to allow or even encourage thus.

e.g. Donald Trump failed at everything he did in life, and according to one analysis would have “made” 8x more money 💰 if he had simply left it in the bank 🤑 untouched by all his various bankruptcies, including somehow casinos that are basically money printers 🖨️.

They played the game sure, but someone made the game, and we all choose to watch it happen and do next to nothing about it.

Yeah, that does help - e.g. if people started defederating lemmy.ml, then all the Hexbear users that went there after being defederated from many popular instances would make alts on other platforms and it would be much harder to avoid their continual trolling:-).

And yes I’ve previously had several quite pleasant conversations with people from lemmy.ml, though I have now managed to leave them behind by moving to PieFed.social where I can block the entire instance. I will block many innocent users that way but… I am okay with that, compared to the alternative of having to put up with each new one that comes along and harasses people. Many people of conscience are fleeing that instance anyway, and the rest have most definitely been warned so it’s their choice, but I am not letting their recalcitrance dictate my own choices in turn:-).

-conservatives

I believe so, though I cannot find great examples to prove it. e.g. !memes@reddthat.com exists but is empty. Then again, I saw similar occurrences with my old instance, Discuss.Online, when nobody had yet joined !justpost@lemmy.world. So I joined it, waited a day or two, and then all the posts showed up - this is the way that communities used to have be federated, before Blaze went around to virtually every instance and joined almost literally every community to make it already happen for people:-). Anyway, Blaze seems to not have done that for PieFed yet, so I will do it myself.:-)

Do you might if I ask how you accomplished that - by using some app? Or did you just mean the standard Lemmy instance block, which blocks only communities hosted there but none of the users especially their comments everywhere across the Fediverse?

PieFed allows custom user instance blocks, of whatever instance you choose, and I think Mbin at least used to (although I also saw a bug report saying that it doesn’t work right now). And Tesseract on dubvee.org and lemmy.cafe have specifically defederated from lemmy.ml, but I was curious what other methods would work as well.

Fwiw, I just abandoned Lemmy in favor of PieFed. It allows you to block whatever custom instance you want - in my case Lemmy.ml - it has “categories” of communities so you don’t have to browse on All, it has a “reputation” feature that puts icons next to users doing patterns of extremely obvious trolling (like a <1-month old account with negative karma - note that such are not “banned”, merely “labelled”, so that you can make your own determination of what to do or not about such), and it has a fairly polished interface. It has its quirks, like searching for a user is different than searching for posts, but it keeps improving all the time and the developers are extremely receptive to feedback.

Unlike Lemmy, where 0.19 was supposed to allow user filtering of instances, but what was delivered in 0.19.3 fell far short of desires, then 0.19.5 rolled back what little protections had been previously offered. At this point I don’t think you’ll ever be able to block all users from lemmy.ml, so long as you remain where you are. Lemmy.world admins could do it, but it seems highly doubtful so long as certain communities such as !Firefox@lemmy.ml are located there.

Lemmy.cafe and Tesseract on dubvee.org have defederated from lemmy.ml though. And maybe some apps allows user-level defederation I dunno. So those seem to be your options - which aren’t a lot but at least they exist!:-)

PieFed allows you to block entire instances. All of the users, all of their posts, everything.

Otherwise as people have suggested, it is just dubvee.org or Lemmy.cafe.