Nonpartisan. Though there are not really movements against this, just small nations that ban parties.

I will push back on your opinions, though. “Division” is not a moral or political quantity. It is not itself good nor bad. Trans people were universally oppressed for centuries. Now they have some protections. This is a consequence of struggle against transphobia, that struggle is inherently a division. There are transphobes and pro-trans people. The pro-trans group should win. For them to win we need to support them materially and in as effectively as possible, which means through organized work. Progress against oppression only occurs through division and struggle. And the best vehicles for this are organizations - basically parties or very similar apparatuses.

The two-party system is a symptom of deeper problems and they shouldn’t be summarized as division. The two-party system is really just a very effective way for the ruling class (business owners) to achieve their ends while still providing a venue for “the political”, often struggles and oppressions that they personally exacerbated. For example, some of the earliest institutional racism in what would become the US emerged due to worker solidarity and struggle. The ruling class decided to divide and conquer: they created a race-based system, defining a new class corresponding to “black”, who would be the most exploited, and exploiting everyone ekse skightly left. This is not theater, as the oppressed are facing actual oppression, but it is cynical: it’s really about profit maximization and controlling workers. The two-party system makes this kind of thing a constant endeavor, you can spend all of your time invested in struggles imposed by the ruling class and exemplified in the parties, and in doing so never focus on the underlying system that creates it. But of course not every oppression makes its way into this attempt at distraction, as when the oppression is bipartisan (no division in that case but still bad!). For example, both parties are in favor of the genocide of Palestinians and both actively ensure that it happens. A few decades ago both were purely transphobic and did nit evdn exhibit today’s liberal cooption of the struggle (notice that it has slowed down).

Most importantly, the two-party system prevents popular politics that runs counter to ruling class interests. Their greatest opponents are the left, so the US political system prevents left parties from functioning abd becoming popular. Want to run as a third party? Well the Dems will gladly do a last-minute change to how many signatures you need to gather to get on the ballot. They can meet the number because they will pay people to collect them, but you have to have already prepared a horde of volunteers. Organize a socialist party? They might just plain kill you.

It is not the existence of parties that is the problem, but the stifling of left parties, of those that can challenge the systemic causes of oppression.

I don’t know enough about the red scare to really comment on it. McCarthyism didn’t really happen in my country as much as it did in the US.

Are you sure? There were killings around the liberal world as well as proscriptions.

Coopting and infiltration of labour movements were partly responsible, but more so outsourcing/global competition (as you mention) and changes in dominant economic sectors played a big role too.

The fact that outsourcing could even happen is already an indication of weak unions. In this case, weak unions coopted into the liberal legal order.

On top of that retirement of former union members - those that saw what the benefits of unions were first hand - also cut down union interest gave corporations more power.

Meaning the unions progressively lost their militancy, the left having been purges for liberals and against class consciousness and solidarity.

Ignore trying to identify and fit into some niche subculture. Instead, just make friends based on your interests. Let any subculture participation emerge naturally. There is no need to granularly define and name and restrict yourself to one thing or social group and this can actually be arbitrarily limiting and divisive.

For example, find some friends to safely go to music events with. Sounds like that’s something you’d like to do.

They did not do an about-face because Joe Rogan told them to. The left was systematically dismantled through the red scare, including the purging and cooption of unions into the liberal state establishment. Robbed of class struggle and solidarity, unionized industries could actually be weaponized against workers’ movements and then later, weakened by cooption and fraternizibg with management, dismantled through offshoring with no coercive resistance.

The people today are the dispossessed and are as miseducated on this as yourself. Having no correct information by which to understand their position, they will replace it with things like, sure, Joe Rogan, but really they mostly fill their heads with self-blaming liberalism and acceptance with the usual reactionary thinking that the ruling class amplifies to secure its positions. Something you are surely not immune to, either.

The “researchers” in no way demonstrate that “AI” replaced any of the jobs lost. They don’t even raise the question of whether “AI” is used to discipline labor despite not being much of a productivity aid.

Yeah by replying I think I’m giving the false impression of taking you seriously, person whi thinks things that happen are impossible.

Hmm I never said that.

This you?

You drive door to door leaving flyers. […] Why do you think municipal or county staff can’t drive

Anyway…

Hey there champ, those are different words meaning different things. Love this strategy of yours known as, “pretend to be less literate than a gradeschooler”, though.

You’re talking about what Amazon and USPS can do. They can do it (Amazon not every home in a given area) because they’re equipped to. Saying that the water company should be able to cover a town with flyers because USPS goes door to door is about as logical as saying USPS should fix a water main because the water company does it.

Okay so there’s this thing called paying for goods and services. I know, difficult concept, but stick with me. Companies and agencies with liabolities write things called “contracts” or “budgets” where they pay others to handle needs for goods and services. Such as paying USPS to knock on doors like they often will for packages, leaving behind a flyer. Crazy, I know. There are already municipalities that use Amazon delivery drivers for services due to neoliberal austerity, but that is an actual thing that happens.

These are just some competent, simple options. They could also use a slew of government workers, contractors, hell they could be lazy asses and supplement with day laborers. The sky’s the limit.

Now, if the law requires something that will always change the calculus but that doesn’t seem to be the case here

Oh? How does it change the calculus?

Ok, where do you get those 50 people?

There are places that regularly do this. Where do you think they get enough people to visit and/or mail every address? Who works at the post office? Cops? First responders? Utility workers? Social workers? Delivery drivers?

This is not just a failure of imagination, it is trying to pretend this kind of operation doesn’t already happen every day right where you live.

Do you have 50 people sitting around on-call 24/7/365 just in case they need to go knock on everyone’s door?

Why would they need to?

Are you taking them off of other jobs to go do this? If this happens at 3AM on a holiday weekend, there’s probably a pretty good reason those other people are already on the clock, like maybe fixing whatever issue is causing the advisory.

Yes you are taking people off of other jobs to do this. Why would they all be working on the problem that caused the boil notice? Do you think your mailman is cranking on water mains?

Are we relying on volunteers? How are we going to get ahold of them to let them know, let alone guarantee that they’re actually going to show up.

If you wanted to use volunteers you would do it by having a group ready to meet up, get trained, and then do these kinds of tasks when needed. You would get their phone numbers in advance and then call around to get together a group. This is how all civil volunteer groups work. Search and rescue. Emergency volunteer firefighters. This is an everyday thing and very basic. Why imply it’s impractical?

We gonna mobilize the national guard to do it? How long is that gonna take to get going?

The governor could do that, yes. They mobilize very quickly, they do evacuations for natural disasters. They train for this kind of logistics thing. But sending notice in the mail would be much cheaper.

Maybe we’ll just press-gang the first 50 people we can get our hands on to do it. What could possibly go wrong?

“What about [stupid thing]? You’re so dumb for thinking the thing I just made up.”

But let’s say getting the people is a solved problem. How are they getting around? Not every area is easily walkable.

The US is car-dependent. You would use cars. Those owned by the authority, municipalities, owned by USPS, cop cars, etc. How do you think your mail works? Purely pedestrian?

Do we have 50 municipal cars on standby for them to use?

For an area with 55,000 people? Yes you have 50 vehicles that could be used, though you don’t need 50 because you can do 2-3 per car if you’re doing the door knocking strategy.

And yes most municipal vehicles are “on standby”. Tons sit in parking lots all day. Ask your county about their staff vehicles and the reservation process.

Are we going to have additional people driving them around to the needed areas in vans?

Why would they need to?

Are they using their personal vehicles and will need to be compensated for gas and mileage (not to mention probably an insurance nightmare for those people using personal vehicles for non-personal use)

Could be. Depends on exactly how incompetent the water authority is. As we can see, publishing info in the internet equivalent of a dark corner in a broom closet is a strategy they actually went with.

They are liable for this and can opt for as expensive snd dumb or cheap and efficient of a method they’d like.

Naw, I think “but we have cars” was silly, not clever (funny how you dropped that pretty quickly).

Hmm I never said that. You’d rather make stuff up than acknowledge an everyday thing is actually entirely feasible?

I think “but you can get people and a plan immediately while also fixing the problem” is silly, not clevet (admittedly places that require certain notices will also have a plan to implement it as required by law, not I’m thinking about wherever OP is which I’m assuming doesn’t have that).

Thanks for explaining how your idea that this can only be done ad hoc is actually dumb, refuting your own point!

I think comparing with organizations that need large coverage for their daily operations (not necessarily 100% of homes in a day, mind you) is silly, not clever.

What are you even talking about? Use your words.

Feel free to move on.

But your bad faith obstinance is funny. You can go ahead and ignore my advice and embarrass yourself as much as you’d like.

This is literally something that already happens every day for junk mailers and junk from Amazon and you’re trying to die on the hill of saying it’s basically impossible. There are regions where direct verbal or written notice is required by law. These are things that happen and happen efficiently and in very boring ways, despite your continued attempts to argue about this from the position of, “nuh-uh it’s too hard” ad nauseum.

And this is in defense of instead publishing this information in a dark corner as if it’s Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy.

“But look, you found the notice, didn’t you?” “Yes,” said Arthur, “yes I did. It was on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying ‘Beware of the Leopard’."

And no, I don’t think the water company would have an army of 50 people ready to do an organized canvas of the town (unlike the Postal Service, which has a roster of dedicated mail carriers)

Paying 50 people for one day of flyering is an army? How much do you think it costs to send a letter? A water boil notice already means they have failed their own liability and could cause very serious and expensive harms. Yes they have to pay for that (possibly literal) shit.

Just admit you were being silly, not clever, and move on.

You drive door to door leaving flyers. Small crowds of teenagers and college students do this for political campaigns. Why do you think municipal or county staff can’t drive, knock on doors, or drop flyers? You can easily do 100-200 houses per hour if it’s just flyers and no converdationd. You can do the whole thing in a day with 50 people.

It feels like you’d think the US Postal Service is an outlandish fairy tale. “They do what!? Drop of letters and packages to every address? That would take years!”

A competent state would go door to door, not make those affected constantly seek out this type of information. It is a basic public healtg failure.

Racism itself is promoted and maintained by the ruling class because white supremacy serves to undermine class consciousness. The same playbook is uses for other forms of marginalization, but race is the most strongly maintained in the United States due to chattel slavery and the ruling class’ investment in it.

What this means is that while class is the major material dividing line that societal forces follow, racism is also a potent force. Just because it gets the oxygen it needs to survive from the continued class war does not mean that racism itself does not exist and make the lives of black people, brown people, etc harder. And white people do have it easier just because they’re white. So if you say otherwise, those who know better will not listen to you.

So, instead of going the route that dismisses the impact of racism, instead acknowledge that class and race oppressions are intertwined and that the former drives the latter, so we need to end capitalism in order to undo marginalization. And to do so in solidarity means you also need to take an anti-racist line and stand in solidarity with marginalized people.

Making peanut butter is super simple and very friendly to automation. Just add peanuts + salt and grind. If you grind with enough friction it will become liquid and you can just pour it into jars. Factory modifications to make it last longer or use byproducts are just changes to the inputs.

The constitutional amendment that outlawed slavery in the US provided one exception: anyone convicted of a crime.

This was a tool of Jim Crow to maintain a sizeable black slave labor force via disproportionate criminalization of black people and poverty (newly-freed previous slaves were very poor, often illiterate). It was and is a tool of modern racialized hyper-exploited labor via the prison system. And it is likely a tool that US authorities are keeping in their back pocket for the mass criminalization of the homeless.

Please engage in good faith

Please try to engage in good faith.

This is a great example of the hyperfocus on irrelevant details that plagues these comments. It was intentional, but even if it wasn’t, so what? “Your argument has a typo, therefore you’re dunked!”?

How was saying “dialect” a doge reference? What?

Anyways I told you exactly why it was relevant in the second sentence you quoted. Do you not see the contradiction between being condescending about a topic without being able to refer to its concepts by name? It isn’t even a spelling error, it is a different word entirely.

The issue is that the comment is pablum. It doesn’t actual say anything, it’s not informative. It’s hoping you’ll infer something yourself and then waste time assuming what they meant. As

I would say its meaning is obvious and you’re being obtuse.

As mentioned in a previous comment, I realize that one of the things it’s trying to get you to infer is that decadent western media is bad or whatever

Yes, I am aware of and criticized this misapprehension.

Arguing that there’s only one thing it’s trying to communicate is a great example of the black and white thinking that plagues tankies.

It’s a meme with one point and you are repeatedly announcing that you don’t get that one lightting would prefer to substitute in the things you want to think about instead.

“You’re meant to ask why” is so embarrassingly vapid that I’m surprised you’re defending it.

How is it vapid? It feels like you just have a grab-bag of negative words that you’re applying willy-nilly rather than addressing what I said. You have skipped over the vast majority of what I said, by the way.

Of course people will focus on big issues like “let’s try to make sure this country continues to exist” over “let’s try to help this country improve itself”.

You are being so vague that I have to guess you are still trying to discuss the meme and that you are contrasting Ukrainians fighting Russia with Ukraine having a Nazi problem. Let me know how accurate this guess is and I will be able to respond.

There will hopefully be time for more of that later after Putin’s invasion fails. I mean come on, this is pretty basic stuff. Do you think I’d be arguing in good faith if I said “Yeah, what’s happening in Palestine is bad, but have you seen their LGBTQ record”? It’s also again, not saying something, it’s JAQing off.

The people that try to pinkwash Israel’s genocide do so in order to justify genocide. They want to create deserving victims so that you do not materially oppose their genocide and instead support it by trying to get people to vote for genocide supporters and villify the people taking action in solidarity.

Ukraine having a Nazi problem is not used by people at Hexbear to say that Ukrainians deserve to die. But it is directly relevant to the civil war since Euromsidan, as Nazis have been the dedicated military cadres terrorizing the people of Donbas and they have absurdly high profiles, likely being behind several decisions including the ethnic cleansing campaigns, the celebration if Bandera, increased anti-labor and antisemitic attacks. It is not, “Ukrainians are bad and deserving because some are Nazis”. It is, “the Nazis sure do call a lot of shots and do Nazi things in Ukraine and you shouldn’t justify the Azov Brigade”.

I was told there’d be informative comments with sources. There were not.

This is simply false. The post with the image you reposted cites 9 mainstream sources alone.

Can we agree to a baseline of, “not saying false things in purpose”? I always assume this to be the default, but unfortunately you are behaving poorly towards me and others.

I elided some of the comment that makes it more clear:

I see what happened. Your “poor Putin” comment refers to the quote that followed it rather than the previous, as implied.

This is imperialist sympathizing, and the OP should feel ashamed. “Putin just had to invade Ukraine because of those other meanie imperialists that didn’t want him in their club!”

If there is something for OP to feel bad about there, it is being too cavalier using Great Man Theory logic despite knowing better. But their comment is overall accurate if you understand it as the Russian capitalist ruling class (of which Putin is a member). They did attempt to become part of the global imperialist order alongside Europe, the US, et al and were instead excluded and pushed towards third world status.

If you think communists are sympathetic to capitalists trying to get a bigger piece of the pie, you are very confused. Understanding how capitalists fight each other and put us all through the meat grinder in the process is an important part of being communist, however.

Also “crypto fascists who run NATO will never forgive the Slavic peoples for destroying the third reich” is just straight facepalm material.

NATO was literally originally staffed by Nazis and used them to continue a maximum pressure anticommunist campaign immediately after the Nazis had attempted with varying degrees of success to depopulate the countries to its east of Jewish people, slavs, gay people, Roma, and communists. That legacy has survived, with NATO serving primarily as an offensive weapon against designated enemies of the imperialist bloc. For example, turning Libya from the highest HDI country in Africa into a country controlled by warlords with open air slave markets. The Western opposition to Nazis was, historically, that they turned West and invaded through France and bombed England rather than staying focused on the shared enemy to the east. They were happy to capitulate and support Nazus right up until the push West.

So as a shorthand quip I would say it is pretty accurate.

None of my answers were random, they were direct responses to what you said, complete with quotes so that you can follow the logic.

Let me know when you are ready to engage with what I’ve said.

Please address what I actually say rather than namecalling and making things up.