Actually, 85% retracted but the remaining 15% seems barelly receive signals. It is even worse

As I said, I blocked the community months ago, I dont doubt you, I really wish it changed and I’m wrong

You should have a big bad luck or they got some mods. The number of straight racism towards asians and south Americans I saw in World news made me literally block the community months ago. It was exactly the same as the reddit counterpart.

This eventually will happen, idk if I would be alive since 98% of the internet run in a google browser engine

You are right, I was trying to say that I think democracy in the western way would not work in the current institutional situation, not that would not work at all. I phrased it badly.

I guess my disagreement is that Western countries are in no position to give these tools

But my first comment was actually criticizing westerns that think they know better how any development country should work.

We didn´t disagree, ppl is being demobilized by the destruction of public debate spaces like unions, this happened, and still happens in some places, with countries in development by force and now is happening in developed countries by propaganda. I feel you think I’m talking about some kind of professoral propaganda like another brick in the wall when I talk about education, but I’m actually talking about Paulo Freire kind of education. I wasn’t in any point trying to say that ppl should be teached about democracy and how they should vote but that they should been given the tools to create their own debates and their own way to experience democracy.

This exactly what happened in Brazil, the argument was that a militar junta influenced by the catholic church was more democratic than a social democratic president not aligned with US. And this was actually an argument.

Education in this case is not about formal education, but understanding how politics work and what are the alternatives. I know ppl that never pass the fourth grade that are decent political/local leaders and middle class ppl with PHD supporting fascism.

This is very similar what we had in Brazil, but the argument was that supporting a “temporary” military junta was “more democratic” than a social Democratic government cause they were communists.

I dont know how my point disagrees with yours

I agree with you entirely, what I was trying to say is something like you said

However, I will agree that we are suffering the worst of it because lack of civil rights and weak civil institutions.

What I was trying to say in a dumber way, you have to create an “ecosystem” for democracy and just elections are not enough. Idk what is the best path for Pakistan, but countries like that usually need a complex institution overhaul and educate the population to function as a decent democracy, and sometimes just trying to force this European view of democracy can introduce even more chaos, like in Libya

And then Europeans come and say we need more “democracy”, how democracy could work in countries like that? You will always descent to things like Modi in India without educating ppl properly.

Not OP but the thing about locals is serious, in Brazil I know about some wind farms that had disrupted the life of locals because was made too close of their houses, and these windmills are very loud. Now ppl can’t live a decent life there and energy companies gave compensation to them.

Dude I’m always surprised how shit health services are in some countries. I’m from Brazil and never got without meds in more 2 years of treatment. Now I’m moving to Portugal and I’m scared as fuck about it. But I always have the ER card. If I ever run out of medications I would run to an ER asking for more, I dont want want to die again, this is not an option where you are?

Taking lithium as a bipolar, my life started there

The same as you “bruh woke” is not an argument.

Nope, it’s probably not fake https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLimCcnee9c

Yeah, its like a Bing without providing any information besides your search

I agree with almost everything but

It ain’t rocket surgery

Got me thinking.

But I also think social networks could ban a lot more