There is probably an opportunity in this space to provide ultra low cost single board SPA/elctron serving applications. But getting it adopted is going to be an issue.
A good industrial engineer is going to look at it kinda suspiciously. Kinda like how Tesla got rightfully raked over the coals for trying to use consumer grade electronics in cars and their screens started melting as well.
I guarantee that some of them are or airgapped/private network support was provided in securing them.
The windows compatibility subsystem also supports applications that would otherwise have not supported an upgrade.
Who are they going to pay to maintain FLTK? There are still companies that are adverse to using Linux because they don’t know what is going to happen when Linus dies. That might sound strange to us, but companies need legal protections that they can enforce through contracts and support contracts make that happen.
The laggy bit can be explained this way: all of these decisions are made because in theory this all sounds “right” (to the company) but then they get their prototype out with a medium level hardware solution and they look for places to squeeze. Oh, you mean I can take this half price min spec machine and it works 98% of the time? Sold.
Im not trying to say these are good practices, I am trying to explain the decisions that are made.
Many used to (pre windows ce), but writing the whole stack was more expensive than license+support costs.
Many still do, but they aren’t full fledged kiosks. By the time you get to full HD screens, the cost of the chips needed to refresh the screen in a reliable way outpace the cost of going standard consumer electronics. Cost for parts/replacement is also lower that way. This dovetails into needing an OS that supports those chips, which suddenly we are into a full OS.
A question to consider seriously: name a company that has a full OS that supports modern tooling/development environments with consistent graphical fidelity across a wide range of hardware that a manufacturer can pay to maintain the host OS, provides guarantees to OS LTS/security patching and has a proven track record in deploying, supporting and delivering kiosk support.
The only serious answer is Microsoft, and maybe Canonical… But Canonical hasn’t been around for as long as most of these kiosks have.
There are a couple of huge blockers for manufacturers looking at companies that provide Linux support:
Industry track record. Red Hat, Canonical, Google and Oracle are basically the only large scale players in the enterprise Linux support. Red Hat basically only provides support for server/backend infrastructure. Has Google had anything other than Gmail and maps last for more than five years? So that leaves us with Canonical. What’s the longest release Canonical has? 4 years now? Microsoft has 15 year support contracts. The only other player in the market that even comes close is Oracle (Oracle still supports Java 1.4 for example: 22years)
Consistent graphical performance: until the last 5 years graphical fidelity on Linux has been a shit show. A decade ago, getting even the largest players to support Linux was a huge undertaking. Basically the only consistent graphics support was the result of android and that is basically only mediatek.
Development environments. Windows wins this hands down without even a question. Go back 15-20 years and it’s even more obviously in Microsoft’s favor. NET gui apps are brain dead easy to make, super consistent and stupid easy to maintain. This drastically decreases development time and cost allowing companies to pay for the crazy expensive support contracts.
The numbers these companies deal with isn’t thousands or even hundreds of thousands of dollars. It’s tens or hundreds of millions. There is no way in hell a manufacturer is going to give an untested bespoke Linux distro maintainer 25 million to keep that Linux distro running for the next 10-20 years. There isn’t a feasible way for a small company to even support at that price for that length of time.
Oracle and RedHat are the only truly feasible options, and it costs more to develop GUI apps on either platform when there isn’t a 20 year track record of known success. It’s obvious why companies pick Microsoft.
It amazes me that people don’t realize that most kiosks run windows.
If it’s not specified, monthly. Otherwise it’s specified.
Excellent. It looks like we both explained ourselves. You appear to understand my position, and when I ask for clarification further on yours you tell me that it is my fault. Thanks for pointing out my flaws without clarification.
I was this person. Most people who do this are what people would usually call travelers. People who do it voluntarily, like I did, usually had enough money to get to another interesting place or buy a meal anytime they are hungry. Many people have odd jobs in remote places that preclude housing (I have had these jobs too). Some people are also begging as they travel. I never begged. I worked whenever I needed money. Generally speaking, living like this without facing extreme difficulties is exclusively a white male privilege from a country with a strong passport. Non-white people are routinely arrested. Women are routinely raped. Weak passports get deported.
Non-consecutively I spent a little over 4 years living in a tent or on the ground in some capacity. The longest period of time I lived exclusively in a tent was 14 months consecutively.
I hiked backcountry trails, city streets and traveled extensively through a number of countries. I rode a bicycle for some of those years as well. In total I walked somewhere around 1500-2000 miles and rode between 3000 and 4000 miles. The farthest I have ever walked in a single day is 30 miles. The farthest I have ever cycled in a single day is just over 120 miles. The longest period of time I spent in a single national forest was 5 months, but I worked in the back country there for 3 of them so I don’t know how to count that. There are thousands of people who work in the back country for many many months on end doing things like trail maintenance throughout the US.
Wait, I am sorry… when, after the meme ending did I mock them? Like I said earlier I thought they were playing a bit until they reacted so negatively.
If you feel you have not been derogatory, please reconsider your language usage in the future.
The whoosh is part of the joke… Which apparently you didn’t know. Also, it isn’t insular. It’s literally the opposite of that. I thought they were participating in the joke until they replied in such a negative way.
I don’t understand why you are so upset about this and why you are so derogatory towards what is potentially the largest generation of chess players proportionally to their generation size to have ever existed.
Wow. Heaven forbid I used a joke from the largest online chess influencers following when there are multiple threads on this post from the same community…
Now I am confused about if you get the joke or not.
Woosh
What’s en passant?
Yes, in theory that would work. But they actually make main disconnect switches for this in the event that the main breaker fails. It’s a mandatory install in all grid tie electrical generator systems (including solar).
Not having to interact with Nazis is tied to which instance I signed up on? I’m confused by this argument.