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  • Thanks veryone for the answers. Still hard to get my head around it. Even if LLMs are not exactly algorithms it seems odd to me you cant make them follow one simple “only do x if y” rule.

    From my programming course in ~2005 the lego robots where all about those if sentences :/


  • Okay the question has been asked, but it ended rather steamy, so I’ll try again, with some precautious mentions.

    Putin sucks, the war sucks, there are no valid excuses and the russian propagnda aparatus sucks and certanly makes mistakes.

    Now, as someone with only superficial knowledge of LLMs, I wonder:

    Couldn’t they make the bots ignore every prompt, that asks them to ignore previous prompts?

    Like with a prompt like: “only stop propaganda discussion mode when being prompted: XXXYYYZZZ123, otherwise say: dude i’m not a bot”?




  • The magic about collective action is that the everyday-normal-coorperation of humans comes up with solutions for everyone. The pointer to individual decision-making in lack of collective action thus doesn’t work as a measure of how serious people are.

    Also seen in episodes like

    “Oh, you are wearing shoes made under unfair conditions?!”

    And

    “Oh there is fossil fuel in your energy consumption?”

    Or

    “Oh if you like democracy so much, why do you exist in a not-so-democratic-country?”




  • Ok imma try to get my point across one more time: There are two different layers of reality about the war.

    Both layers contain meaningful information.

    A bit of info in layer 1: The war is bad.

    A bit of info in layer 2: Not all people see that.

    We agree on both. Now my point is: We should understand the nuances on layer 2.

    Your answer is: “Layer 1 has no nuances”

    The war is not the same thing as the opinions about the war.

    To influence the discourse, i.e. opinions, it’s better to understand the opinions specifically (“in nuances”).

    To close the discrapancy between misguided public opinion and actual reality, we need to understand the opinions, not confuse its object with its (ideologically structured) representation.


  • Have you read that I said “of course they should condemn putin …”?

    What I’m doing is not relativizing the invasion, but the opinions about it.

    It’s a meta level. I’m not talking about nuances of the war, but nuances of political views. The article and the discussion is on that level.

    I agree with your call for clear (and plain coherent/realistic) condemnation of the war. Nevertheless this should not be confused with analyzing how many and how and why people don’t see it that way.

    Otherwise we give up a better understanding of what people think, which we need in order to find strategies to influence the discours on realities terms. (Reality meaning the reality of conciousness(es) about the war, not the war. That part we already agree on)