I have no real idea with Navalnvy, and only dim memories of news reports about Magnitsky which went into a little more detail, but I’ll tell you how I assume it operates: It’s basically mistreatment to the point that it’ll kill you, just slowly. Your cell’s cold all the time, in the arctic winter with no blankets. You get bad food and bad sleep and beatings and no medical care of any kind. Once your body starts to malfunction (Magnitsky started having kidney failure), they go on beating you severely enough to cause additional organ damage, but then just continue to put you in your cell day after day with no medicine. Basically, you’re going to die, but they’re drawing the process out enough that it’s indirectly, because of “medical issues” related to what they’re doing to you, instead of just from blunt force trauma or something. So it’s incredibly painful and long and drawn-out, a slow death of constant suffering from which you can’t escape or get any relief.

Yeah, that’s universally my expectation when dealing with these systems. I was already queuing up my complaining-fingers when I pasted the error message to it, expecting it to refer me to some unrelated and useless documentation and make it a little more difficult for me to talk with a human (who might, 50/50, know how to solve the problem). I was not in any capacity expecting it to ask relevant questions and use them to identify the problem, tailor the link it was sending me according to what I needed to download, and then give me the link and tell me how to use it. Astounding.

He’s just trying to help you, dude. lemmy.world is by far the biggest instance; 3x the users of the next biggest instance and much more than most. But, lemmy.world is also defederated from some notable instances like beehaw and hexbear. Another instance which also has in the tens of thousands of users (enough to be subscribed to “most stuff”) might well give you better search results.

You may decide that the defederated-from-here instances aren’t worth bothering with, with some justification, but you came in asking for help, he’s trying to help you, and you’re lecturing him about what’s what. 🙄

Lemmy.world has by far the most number of users. OTOH, it’s defederated from some notable instances, so you might be better off using one of the dedicated search sites if you want to cast the widest net.

I don’t even know about that, because instead of the article I got my App Store opened up demanding that I install Phantom Surfer Browser to protect me from viruses.

Not since late last year they’re not. They spent early 2023 winning back the north of the country, then had a summer counteroffensive which captured essentially 0 of the East, then over winter they got nothing in terms of the ammunition and weapons aid they’d need to have to fight against an opponent which can outproduce them 20:1. They’re now desperately trying to hold the front line even though after 3 months of nothing they’re basically out of ammunition.

The big aid packages out of the US and EU are stalled apparently indefinitely. There’s that little package from the UK which hopefully will help a little, but unless the GOP stops being compromised by Russia sometime soon, it seems like they might be in real trouble.

Yeah. Punishing people for being addicted is like throwing rocks at someone who’s drowning to try to knock them closer to land.

I mean… what can you do?

“Hey, all you druggies! You can’t be druggies here! Go be druggies somewhere you’re not familiar with! Or maybe briefly to jail!”

Yeah, that’ll help.

“You want my honest opinion? I don’t think there’s no solution.”

For some reason the way he said it hit me really hard.

It’s definitely factual. That’s why I linked to some examples of rape. The occupying forces are committing rape. Want me to try to find more examples? Or do the same for occupation, killing, torture, and systematic dehumanization?

The fact that now that I’ve read up a little bit more, I think it’s genuinely pretty unfair to put that in there in the way that I did, and that context needs to be added, doesn’t change the fact that rape has occurred because of what Israel is doing in the Palestinian territories. It also doesn’t change the overall thesis of what my comment was in the slightest.

The wider point, that us being allowed to have this conversation is a good thing and that forbidding this conversation would be a bad thing, was more my point. I won’t claim to be perfect or right all the time, and I’ll be pretty honest about it if I learn something or realize I got something wrong. But if you want to talk about what Israeli forces are doing in Palestine I’m happy to do that and back up anything I’m saying or have said.

I’ll take your feedback under advisement.

Yes. I’m not irritated at how they found it. What I’m saying is, after it was reported, I’m irritated that they decided to remove it.

The mods are not required to remove comments that are reported. It’s their decision whether or not to.

I guess where we differ is that my comment is, to me, in no way shape or form “being a whiny little shit.” It’s commentary on what the government of Israel is doing, in a community for discussing world events. If you see my comment the way you’re describing it, and feel that removing it from a communication network is just the mods doing their due diligence and keeping the network the way it’s supposed to be, then I think we’re not gonna be able to see eye to eye about this.

Oh, I understood what you were saying. I think you missed the point that I was making in response, but that’s okay.

In the parent comment of your comment I was replying to was where I said that.

But, within the context of lemmy.ml worldnews, I don’t have the right to say this thing. That’s the whole reason we’re talking about this. Plenty plenty of times online and offline I’ve said some thing and everyone’s yelled at me about how I’m wrong, and that’s completely fine with me. Removing the comment is a different story. And yes, I got butthurt about it and came to complain about it. Is it legal? Sure, they’re not the government, so the first amendment doesn’t apply to them. Can I go somewhere else? Sure. Do I feel like complaining because the mod did that? Sure. And so, here we are.

If that behavior by mods doesn’t bother you once you read the context, then you’re not the target audience and you don’t need to care, no. That part is completely up to you.

Well, I made a decision for my user account to create my post, and followed it through. That also seems pretty fediverse to me. And yet, here you are, creating a comment criticizing me for it, publicly explaining why you disagree with what I decided to do. By your own logic…

Bro

I literally said, hey, you’re right, I was wrong, this is good we talked about this. I also told someone else in the thread the same thing as far as the rape-as-an-official-policy allegation. In some other context I’d go back and edit my comment to add context.

Here’s where I said it:

generally there’s punishment for the IDF soldiers involved or otherwise some attempt by the Israeli government to address the situation; it’s a whole different story from the way Hamas has been using rape as an explicit weapon of war.

Did you just not read my comment or something? I’m not sure how much better an outcome you could hope for from an internet interaction.

Yeah. The weird thing is, I actually deliberately went to one of those instances (I genuinely can’t remember if it was lemmy.ml or lemmygrad) when I first joined and had some arguments with them. Back in those days they not once removed any of my comments. They yelled at me and downvoted me and of course I think their opinions are dead wrong, but I was actually a little impressed with how they let me say my anti-genocide things. I actually learned a bunch of stuff by arguing with them; among other things I got exposed to John Mearsheimer who I think is pretty sharp.

That was why it was a little shocking when this comment got removed. It wasn’t, like, friendly and happy, but I didn’t think there was much in it to disagree with. Maybe one word.

For what it’s worth I’m planning to do my own instance using kbin, so I can have my own little walled fortress and interact with the people on Mastodon also, and also no one can ban me even if the whole rest of Lemmy goes crazy. YOU CAN’T STOP ME