• FauxPseudo @lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    I saw the graph the other day in a Facebook s-posting group. I was struck by it because it was the most information dense image I had ever seen given that it contained the whole universe and a little bit extra. But it came with no article so I’m glad to finally have one even if it’s from IFLS.

  • Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    Doesn’t that not mesh with the whole “space is constantly expanding” thing?

    If the observable universe was all in a black hole, everything would be moving closer together as we get pulled toward the singularity.

    …right? Definitely not my area of expertise, but the little I do know is raising a few flags.

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      9 months ago

      Things nearest the center would move towards the center at an accelerated rate. So observation from the perspective of an object falling in the black hole could be everything is expanding? Since everything is getting compressed as it goes toward the center. I’m not an expert on anything but it seems like an intriguing concept.

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        9 months ago

        It won’t work like that, the expansion we observe has no directional bias. If it were due to some collapse to a well defined point, we’d be able to tell the difference.

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      9 months ago

      Iflscience is a pop science website. There’s no guarantee this isn’t bullshit.

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      9 months ago

      From the article:

      we learn that the entire observable universe – the area that sits within the “Hubble radius” is also on that line. In other words, if a black hole was as large as the universe we can see, it would have the same density as the universe.

      Not saying any of this makes sense, but you seem to be working with different assumptions.

      Another narrative could be: As mass gets added to the black hole, it (the universe) grows.

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        9 months ago

        That also isn’t how it works, I’m afraid.

        The black hole gets less dense because the so called “event horizon” becomes larger, the space inside doesn’t stretch like we see in the universe.

        It’s a little removed from my area, but as I understand it there are similarities in the maths. The observable universe has a horizon in some sense, but it’s not a point if no return like a black hole, so much as a point of “the universe hasn’t existed long enough for anything to be able to travel that far yet”

        This has a similar effect as a black hole, but it’s really just a concept we see in perfectly flat empty space, light taking time to move.

        • Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          9 months ago

          There’s also an event horizon where space is expanding away from us rapidly enough that we can never get that far no matter how long we travel.

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            9 months ago

            Oh yeah, that’s also a great point, the Hubble horizon!

            It turns out there are a few different horizons in cosmology like that, they really do show up everywhere.

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    9 months ago

    I still like the 3-tauroid theory best, since it can be extended to imply that the universe is expanding and contracting over an infinite period of time extending both forwards and backwards.

    Basically, it implies that the universe is breathing, and every fresh inhale births a new possible configuration within infinity, meaning I’ve already explained this to you infinite times, and will again infinitely more times, and just as, you have explained and will explain it to me infinitely as well.

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    9 months ago

    This website has been pumping out sensationalized garbage for over a decade now