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          These players obviously and clearly wanted “the people”, not just adults, “to keep and bear Arms”.

          To that end, I want nuclear warheads for the schoolchildren stat and I want to outlaw bullets, please. No I’m not kidding I’ll see you all in hell.

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              Breaking news here tonight a student at Oppenheimer High opened fire today with a nuclear warhead. We do not currently know the identity of the perpetrator. Police cannot enter to rescue victims because the radiation is too high. PPE against radiation will be delivered to the PD later today, but for now there is nothing they can do.

              Concerns are being raised over civilian access to nuclear weapons. This is the second school nuking attempt this month. The first was at Robert Elementary where the warhead failed to explode. I’ll turn you over to Jackson Lee with the latest on this incident. Jackson tell us what you’ve gathered.

              LEE: We haven’t learned much but police have deployed a drone to look more into this incident, however they do not know exactly how the drone will respond when faced with the challenge of radiation. We know during Chernobyl back in 1986 how helicopters would malfunction under the stressors of radiation. But that’s all we know for now we will keep you updated.

              Jackson, thank you so much for that valuable information. Now we turn to the weather for today, take it away Samuel.

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    Mine & my wife’s new guilty pleasure is watching youtube channels (Van Ballion, Law with Mike) that features these morons getting arrested as well as in court.

    Nothing like watching an idiot escalate their traffic citation into 4 felonies. Bonus points for MAGA stickers.

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      Mine is joining sovereign citizen Facebook groups and giving them bogus advice. It’s hilarious what I can convince them of (just harmless stuff like using certain stamps and ink colours and nonsense like that).

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        Think you mentioned that yesterday, made me ponder.

        Perhaps someone knows why, while it’s obviously quite funny, it… doesn’t quiteee sit exactly right with me…

        Maybe it’s like when a comedian punches down. Or maybe I’m assuming a number of them have legitimate mental deficiencies (schizophrenia? learning disabilities?).

        Hey I bet you’d be really good at wasting scammers’ time. Like Kitboga! Would love to see you running the Lemmy version of 419eater :)

        Every minute the scammer I’m communicating with is spending on me is a minute he is not scamming a real potential victim.

        🙌

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        My wife & I are thinking it’s a conspiracy to make sure the dumbest criminals stay incarcerated.

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        You mean like this sort of thing? I’m appalled at how easy it is for me to believe they’d go for something like this. 😁

        “Bring in your documentation unsigned and tell them you used invisible ink. They have to accept it.”

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          The poor person working behind whatever desk they bring it too. Not completely harmless, if it’s mailed, absolutely, but if they have to interact with a human, I feel bad for that human.

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          Yes! I will reply very seriously to one of their stupid questions something like that they need to submit the T.298.101 form to their local notarizing deputy attorney using a fox postal stamp in red ink, with a codicil appending the 1099A, and they are like “oh ok”, and then my messenger request is full of questions from sovcits haha.

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    I remember many, many years ago first hearing about this “Did you know that you don’t have to pay income taxes if you just do …” thing, way before “being completely disconnected from reality” was an acceptable political position.

    “Huh,” I thought, “I should look into that, see what that’s about.”

    Fifteen minutes later: “Oh, it’s just looney bullshit.”

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        Really? I thought it was just ‘whoops got caught fudging the dollar amounts’. That’s much worse.

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        He should be rich enough to hire an accountant who knows how to avoid paying taxes the proper way :/

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          He did from memory. It amazing how many celebrities fall for “snake oil” salesmen. Being rich doesn’t make you smart.

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      It dates back a long time, and for some reason has ties to both white supremacy and Moorish black people. I guess any loony fringe groups will pick up stuff like this.

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      Far from it! I often think about all the kids who are being raised by these lunatics and how badly their lives will be affected.

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    If the guy deems himself to be a sovereign citizen, not subject to the laws of the state, why is he even bothering to make a fake license plate for the car? By doing so he’s just abiding by a requirement of a system he’s claiming to not be bounded by? (In a second-grader with a crayon and paper kind of way).

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      The beliefs of sovereign citizens are to law what magic is to science. Both believe that if you do the correct rituals and spells, you can ignore the laws of the land or the laws of nature, respectively.

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    Its not his fault. I blame the gutting of public education for more money to blow up shit and make orphans overseas.

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      The funny bit is, the rest of us don’t get many sales adverts on TV now, it’s just a constant bombardment of charity adverts asking us to help the kids the Americans bombed

      They’re better fed and educated than half of you 😂😜

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    The sovcit thing is really big, courts see it extremely regularly, and it’s become a standard view in prisons for, uh, reasons. So people convicted with video evidence of them doing it want to represent themselves.

    I listened to a motions hearing where the defendant spent almost 20 minutes asking the judge “by what authority are you allowed to call me [his name]”. (The question the judge asked was “are you [guy’s name]”) and he would go into his sovcit loop until the judge was just done and was ready to send him back to prison. It was very boring insanity. It’s also not unrelated to why Trump is popular with men in prison.

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      I worry about their kids a lot. They often have CAS involved and call them their biological property they are demanding back.

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    He’s doing it wrong. I knew a Silicon valley weirdo who wasn’t sovereign citizen but never had a license. When he got pulled over, the police could only make him get out of the car and not drive. It wasn’t an arrestable offense because he never had a license as compared to driving with a suspended license. Being rich meant the fines were an annoyance, not a real problem.

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      Going through so much trouble to not have a license… Wow.

      I had to look it up to see if you can buy a car without a driver’s license… It looks like depending on your jurisdiction, you can buy a car but you must have auto insurance. And you can purchase car insurance without a driver’s license. TIL.

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          Massachusetts requires insurance to register a car: there’s like half a dozen itemized minimum coverages

          It was a real hassle a couple decades ago when they combined license, registration, and insurance requirements, while also no longer sending reminders. A lapse in one meant the rest were dropped and made it that much harder to fix. For example drivers license expires every four years, but without a reminder, you may forget. But an expired license may discontinue your insurance, so now you’re driving without coverage for a month until that gets sent out. Now your registration may also be canceled because of lack of insurance, so you have to renew all three and in the right order

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    I’m not sure what is meant by “only subject to contacts” (I think maybe they meant contracts?) but if he doesn’t think he needs a plate or license from the state, why would he acquiesce to police or the court? Surely by his logic they have no authority over him?

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      Sovereign Citizens are basically a cargo cult. They think that finding the right legalese will work like a magic spell. If they can find the right combination of words, they’ll get the outcome they desire.

      The “only subject to contracts” thing is basically their belief that they are only bound by contracts they’ve agreed to, not things like the laws of the place they currently are. Hence doing something crazy like making a fake license plate and thinking that ‘counts’ because he’s “issuing his own license” without the need to do silly things like take a driving test to use public roads.

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    Blows my mind how people can think they can just claim to be immune from laws and government yet be free to use the roads they avoided taxes to pay for.