• Shadywack@lemmy.world
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    1 年前

    So Israel is an invention from the last century?

    One that was internationally recognized and awarded sovereignty. Palestine was never a nation, and was agreed to be assimilated into Israel while retaining their culture and identity. It was when coexistence wasn’t enough and the insane extremists decided Jews should be eradicated.

    You’re ignoring several realities about the cowardice of Hamas and the shitty situation they PUT their civilians in. Nobody wants to “shoot the hostage” as you so ignorantly put it. The only monsters here are the people saying anything positive or justifiable about Hamas’ actions.

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      One that was internationally recognized and awarded sovereignty

      Ah, so the issue you have with Palestine is that it isn’t recognized internationally? Then I guess similar to Hong Kong and Taiwan, people need to organize protests to try to get it recognized internationally… oh hey, they original article was about people protesting in support of Palestine (not Hamas), imagine that!

      Nobody wants to “shoot the hostage” as you so ignorantly put it

      Explain the difference between “Shoot the Hostages to kill the criminal” and “Flatten the building innocent people are in to kill the criminal”:

      If that means flattening a building that they’re hiding in and using human shields, so be it.

      The only monsters here are the people saying anything positive or justifiable about Hamas’ actions.

      Nobody here is saying anything positive about Hamas. I am just not ignorant of the fact that since 2008 there has been 20 times more Palestinian deaths (6407) than Israeli (308), and a even higher ratio of Palestinian Injuries (152 260) vs Israeli (6307)

      https://www.ochaopt.org/data/casualties

      I challenge you to find a time frame in that data where Israeli deaths/injuries outnumber Palestinians.

      Hamas are pieces of shit. Nobody is disputing that. I don’t need to come here and argue that Hamas are pieces of shit because everyone agrees.

      Can we all agree Hamas is shit? Yes? Okay, moving on:
      Israel is 20 times the piece of shit Hamas is because Israel is doing 20 times as much damage. If there are 2 fires burning out of control, and one is 20 times larger than the other, the larger one requires more attention and should be prioritized first.

      Yes, Hamas needs to be stopped, but Israel is much higher priority to stop because they are doing a lot more damage to innocent people.

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        I could point out the Israeli escalations that happened only after the violence started against them, but you’ll just keep this going in circles. Downvoted, and ignored. Have a nice life in delusion. I’ll be rooting for the IDF to wipe out as much Hamas scum as possible, and you can just accept that you aren’t changing minds like you wish you could.

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          “Every time Hamas kills someone Isreal kills 20 people in response. Why can’t you see Israel is the “Good Guys” here and this will clearly stop Hamas?!”