A new study suggests that the Atlantic overturning circulation AMOC “is on tipping course”
“It’s observational data from the South Atlantic which suggest the AMOC is on tipping course. Not the model simulation, which is just there to get a better understanding of which early warning signals work, and why.”
Stefan Rahmstorf: https://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2024/02/new-study-suggests-the-atlantic-overturning-circulation-amoc-is-on-tipping-course/ @climate
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So honest question: why do you find it more accurate to refer to these people as conservatives instead of the ruling class in your original comment?
Because in the U.S., conservative voters are who protects the ruling class. Conservatism is the front line in any war against the ruling class. If the public were primarily progressive minded, this ruling class would cease to exist (at least in its current form). This is why controlling the media is so extremely important to the ruling class.
Conservatism makes this ruling class possible. To make progress against a ruling class (or against climate change or against genocide), we must first defeat conservatism.
Can you show me a single time in history when a ruling class simply “ceased to exist” due to a “primarily progressive” populace?
Ruling classes: classes with power, money, capital, do not simply cease to exist. Their power isn’t given up so easily.
Your original premise that only conservative voters protect the ruling class is so demonstrably wrong. Look at at the entirety of the social democratic Europe: who have attained riches from the global south. Look back to FDR voters who cheered internment camps. Look at modern Biden voters who tacitly approve genocide in Gaza. Look to the social democrats who betrayed leftists in Germany. Make no mistake: democrats preserve capitalism.
You have a warped view of our issues as left vs right when they’re actually up vs down: which plays into the hands of big interests like big oil. And the result is that you are pacifying people who would otherwise be doing actual class analysis and have some ounce of revolutionary fervor. Instead, you’re perpetuating the myth that all the evil we experience in our politics is due to baddies on the right who are proud Republicans.
I suspect that as time goes on, while the US and world continue to backside into genocidal fascism, you’ll find yourself confused and aimless, wondering why every tool at your disposal (electoralism, kissing the feet of democrats) isn’t helping to stop Nazis.
You have to read some Marx and understand these are class-based issues as opposed to left v right.
You gave no example of progressives. Your examples were all examples of neoliberals or moderates whose parties happened to include some progressives. A progressive person does not laugh at an internment camp, ffs. Biden is not a progressive. And social democrats who betrayed progressives are not progressive.
Your notion that a ruling party cannot be removed from their ruling status by progressives because you are unable to find an historic example of such a change is flawed on its face.
Conservatism is a plague of deception, bad faith arguments and manipulation. Your comment is riddled with all three.