• dannoffs@lemmy.sdf.org
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    1 year ago

    Yeah, why don’t the Palestinians give up and just accept being ethnically cleansed? I mean, they’re Arabs why don’t they just move in with the other Arabs, they’re all one big homogeneous group, right?

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        If it was any other country your argument would be substantive. But we are talking about Israel and Palestine. Anyone who leaves will not be able to return. That’s how it’s always been. And for the Palestinians, their land is their existence. They will not give it up. They know the second they leave, it’s been lost.

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            It would be mathematically impossible for them to have elected Hamas since 50% of them are 18 and younger, and the last election was held over 17 years ago.

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            You do realize this is advocating for genocide - the deliberate and systematic destruction of a racial, political, or cultural group.

            • Andy@slrpnk.net
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              I think at this point, the genocide is in progress. Like the caregivers in this article, what we’re discussing is triage.

              I think it’s unconscionable to evacuate the Gaza strip, because we all know that the intention is to never allow the refugees to return. But I would like the Palestinians of Gaza to have the option to choose whether to survive in exile or die in their homes.

              I believe that the Palestinian identity can survive in a diaspora. But that’s all academic. These people deserve the option to escape, even regardless of what it means for the future of their ethnic group. It’s a painful choice, but it should be there’s.

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                If some decide to stay, what happens to them? Does the world condemn them to death because it’s too problematic to deal with? Does the world force them at gunpoint? Israel has the power to stop this, it’s the easier path.

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                But I would like the Palestinians of Gaza to have the option to choose whether to survive in exile or die in their homes.

                Oh wow, how magnanimous of you.

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                It’s 2.2 million people. It’s a logistical nightmare. Any country/countries that take them in will have a drain on their resources. They will need aid. Or, just spitballing here, Israel could just stop.

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                  And that should happen with them until Israel listens to reason and stops? Because if they stay in Gaza more will die.

                  It’s 2.2m or 2.3m people. Remember Syria? That was 5 millions leaving the country so cut the crap about it being impossible.

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                    I didn’t say it was impossible, it’s impractical. The easier solution is for the world to pressure Israel to stop the bombing.

                  • dannoffs@lemmy.sdf.org
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                    The West, particularly the US where I am, has way more power to stop Israel than it has to force Egypt to accept refugees. They don’t need to “listen to reason” they need to be told to stop or we’ll stop propping up your entire economy and defense apparatus.