• catloaf@lemm.ee
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    4 months ago

    That’s always a risk in parachute operations.

    It’d be real cool if Israel stopped blocking aid by land so this wouldn’t even be a problem. Or if they stopped the genocide entirely.

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      It’s really not Israel that’s the Problem.

      The Problem is that Gaza is controlled by a Terrorist Organisation and nobody wants to risk their Trucks / Ships to bring Aid into it, Especially since Hamas uses Food as a means to control its Population and therefore will not be happy about a third party distributing it freely.

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        Israel has literally been blockading Gaza for decades and massively limits the number of aid shipments it allows into the strip.

        After the ICJ ordered Israel to increase the amount of aid it allows into the strip, they instead reduced the number of trucks by a third to barely 100 per day.

        For comparison, around 500 trucks per day were entering the strip before Oct 7th.

        And you have the balls to say that less than two weeks after over 100 people died after the IDF fired on an aid distribution point.

        https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2024/02/israel-defying-icj-ruling-to-prevent-genocide-by-failing-to-allow-adequate-humanitarian-aid-to-reach-gaza/

        https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/mar/11/israeli-human-rights-groups-icj-gaza-aid-ruling

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          Why is it, do you think, that everyone is Airdropping Aid into Gaza instead of using Trucks? These Airdrops are obviously communicated to and coordinated with Israel, so it can’t be to circumvent an Israeli Blockade.

          The Reason everyone Airdrops their Aid is because Gaza is a Enemy Territory controlled by brutal Terrorists that would gladly kill the Aid-workers without any second thought.

          Heck, have you seen the Photos of the Philippine guest-workers being taken hostage in Hamas-Bunkers? Did you see what was there? Bags and Bags of Japanese Wheat, stolen from the starving civilian Population to further their terrorist goals.

          Or did you see the Video of Hamas digging up Water Pipes to make Rockets to fire at Israeli Civilians? Gosh, i really wonder why the majority of Gazans don’t have access to running Water despite the EU investing Billions into exactly that.

          I’ll say it again: The Problem with sending Aid to Gaza isn’t Israel, it’s Hamas. It sees Gaza not as a Territory it must develop but instead as a Asset it can use up in order to fight Israel. They have no concerns for Gaza and its Population as long as they can hurt Israel.

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        Are you saying it’s okay for israel to use starvation of women and children as a weapon of war?

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          I support Israel almost to a fault. At this point, they need to make sure everyone is fed. This has went on way to long for the size of Gaza.

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            You’re beyond fault at this point, my friend. You’ve gone straight into supporting genocide territory! Major fault x 10000. Turn in your humanity card because you’re no longer acting with any.

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              You must have missed what I said.

              I clearly said it’s gone on to long and the people need to be fed.

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                But you said you support Israel to a fault. And at this point, what Israel has been doing for a really long time is starving and murdering Palestinian people. So it can’t be both. You can’t both support the oppressive genocide state and not support them. Because their actions right now are exactly what you say you wish weren’t happening. That’s nowhere near good enough. Because…we’re talking about fuckin genocide. Continuing to support the Israeli state is supporting exactly what you are saying has gone on too long.

                “I support Germany, but I think this whole concentration camp thing has gone on too long.”

                Do you see how ridiculous that is?

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                  lt. And at this point, what Israel has been doing for a really long time is starving and murdering Palestinian people

                  They have been dismantling Hamas which I fully support.

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                    If you really liked the idea of eliminating, say, gangs in the US. And I did that by carpet bombing all of LA — or, shit, even if I just limited it to south central—would you still support me? What if, as I did that, I was shooting families that I’ve trapped in south central, that have nothing to do with gangs, would you still support me then? What if I deliberately withheld food and water, medical supplies, and what if I and the entire apparatus was talking about those families as if, “well, they live there. And it’s a gang stronghold, so they are complicit, they’re animals, and they deserve to be shot like sick dogs.” Would you still support me?

                    But even ignoring alllll of that inconsistent logic, the most outrageous is the idea that this campaign is “dismantling Hamas.” That’s not the case. They’re mostly killing children and non-combatants. Literally 60% of the victims are civilians. Not to mention, this campaign is not eliminating Hamas. it’s actually Increasing support. Because of fuckin course it is. When your family is being killed and your neighborhood is being bombed out of existence and you’re being herded and slaughtered, you’re going to support whatever is fighting against the force that is doing all of that.

                    I don’t particularly like Hamas either. They’re a right wing religious extremist group. But Israel has actually made me see them entirely differently now. Because they are now freedom fighters against a genocidal, occupying, settling force. How anyone can see it differently that doesn’t actively think of the residents of Gaza as less than human, like I’ve seen countless IDF soldiers expressing, is just baffling to me.

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                    All Israel needs to do to dismantle Hamas is to stop the weapons embargo for Gaza. Let the people there get rid of Hamas themselves.

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                    Ah yes wow very dismantled especially the proof they made up really inspires confidence in that they’re right on task there

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            A good way to make sure everyone was fed would be not oppressing them for decades. For example, attacking fishing vessels, and blockading them entirely since 2007.

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              The blockade started because they voted in a group that wanted to genocide all the Jews. Maybe if they would stop trying to kill Jews, things may change.

              Sounds like you are victim blaming.

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                It’s a complicated history but even the Hamas Founding charter, which is certainly unreasonable in its fundamentalism with Sharia Law and is antisemitic, does not call for the extermination of all Jewish People. That’s a lie, and also intentionally ignores the 2017 Revised charter. Check Article 7 and 13 of the 1988 Charter to see yourself, compare it to Article 20 and 24-26 in the revised version too. Hamas has committed atrocious acts, there’s no need to make things up about Hamas to show they’ve done terrible things. Ending the occupation and having a Palestinian election for the Palestinian people to choose their own leadership is the way to diminish support for Hamas and other Armed resistance groups. Further terrorizing the West Bank and Gaza will only increase their support, which has been shown historically not only within the Occupied Palestinian Territories but throughout history.

                The Blockade, described by the Israeli Defense Minister as a ‘total siege’ long before 2023, was a strategic decision in 2005. What do you think of the ethnic cleansing campaign of 1947?

                History of Hamas supported by Netanyahu since 2012

                Gaza Blockade is still Occupation

                Dahiya Doctrine

                Gaza March for Return Protest

                AWRAD Gaza War Poll

                PCPSR Public Opinion Poll Dec 2023

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                Oh, then why is the West Bank also blockaded? That’s not governed by a ‘group that wants to genocide Jews’. You zios logic is full of holes trying to justify your fascist shit hole committing actual genocide and ethnic cleansing.

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                    Haha, that’s your response? ‘Please don’t look that way, it deflates my argument’. Genocidal fascist.

                    You freaks are losing the pr war, and it’s because you’re trying to defend the indefensible.

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        If they do, will Israel withdraw from Palestine, rebuild what they’ve destroyed, and stop oppressing Palestinians?

        They will not. So why would Hamas surrender?