• Jay@lemmy.ca
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      10 months ago

      I guess it must be “going over my head”, because it makes no sense to me to pray to something that isn’t there, unless you at least think there’s at least a tiny chance there is… aka agnostic.

      I also wouldn’t pray to my toaster unless I thought at least there was the slightest chance it could hear me.

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        10 months ago

        because it makes no sense

        So everything in your life “makes sense”? How did you accomplish that?

        I also wouldn’t pray to my toaster unless

        I also wouldn’t recommend praying to anything that comes with an on/off switch… though I am undecided about threatening them with banishment to a landfill.

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          10 months ago

          I never said everything in life makes sense, just that praying to something you don’t think is real doesn’t.

          Obviously you believe in some form of higher power, so it makes sense that you would pray to it. But you wouldn’t pray to something you don’t at least think has a chance of existing, why would you think an atheist would?

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            10 months ago

            just that praying to something you don’t think is real doesn’t.

            Why is your thinking about this so narrow? What makes you think this is simply about praying?

            Btw - this is why triggering atheists is so much more fun than triggering believers… you’re more narrow-minded than they are.

            Obviously you believe in some form of higher power,

            There are lots of “higher powers” around - though I wouldn’t say I believe in any of them. They seem to get on just fine wiothout my belief.

            so it makes sense that you would pray to it.

            Pray to power? That’s a new one to me.

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              10 months ago

              I’m not “triggered,” I was trying to have a conversation in good faith but obviously that wasn’t your intention. Think whatever you’d like, I was pointing out how your first statement was wrong about that weird “foxhole” thing.

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                10 months ago

                I was trying to have a conversation in good faith

                So far, only one self-described atheist have attempted what you claim to have attempted - and, so far, that isn’t you.

                I will acknowledge, however, that, so far, you haven’t flown off the handle like a lot of your fellow atheists yet - there’s quite a lot of them really angry that their (alleged) rationality is not as guaranteed as they had assumed. Maybe you deserve a medal - considering that the bar is so damn low.

                I was pointing out how your first statement was wrong

                …and you still haven’t - it still stands.

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                  10 months ago

                  That’s because I don’t care that much what people think of me not having “belief.” I will say my two cents, if someone want’s to learn something from it that’s great, if not, that’s fine too… whether it’s you or someone else reading this.

                  Anyway, have a good one.