cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/17439723
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/17439722
Palestinian Territory – Israel’s army has again massacred Palestinian civilians who had gathered in Gaza to obtain humanitarian aid, targeting them with gunfire from helicopters, tanks, and drones near the Kuwait roundabout on the outskirts of Gaza City. This incident has resulted in over 60 deaths and 160 injuries, some of which are critical.
If you don’t have human rights for a land’s native population; you are a country that infringes on human rights. It’s very simple. Plus, Palestine is a secular nation and it borders other secular nations like Lebanon (well at least the region of Palestine does). Unlike the country that believes in “old testament justice.”
Even in Jordan, which is NOT a secular country, as long as you don’t display physical affection in public (which is frowned upon on all groups) you’ll be fine. I have even heard of white gay people moving to Amman because they said the people there mind their own business (I can’t find the link to this anymore).
Well, you stated that in Amman people mind their own business when talking about gays, in Israel gays can adopt children. Does any other country around recognize gay relationships and allow them to adopt children? Are pride parades allowed anywhere in the region (apart from Israel)?
About Lebanon: maybe it is a secular country but still has been marked as an authoritarian regime by economist with a score of 3.56 (for comparison, Israel has a score of roughly 7.9). So I don’t think we have to argue which regime is more oppressive towards the citizens.
You also mentioned that each country should have human rights for native population. I do not necessarily understand how that applies to Israel. Israel has laws for their citizens and Palestinian authorities have laws for Palestinians. The fact Palestinian government oppresses their people with their laws is not Israel’s fault. There are many things Israel is guilty of but this is not one of them.
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Palestinians live under Israeli Occupation and 50 years of dispossession. Palestinians are denied civil rights and subject to Military Court
At the mercy of Settler Violence, Torture and Abuse in Interrogations, have No freedom of movement, and also denied Water stolen and extorted by the occupying forces.
Palestinian Labor is also heavily exploited as they have no workers rights either: Haaretz, MEE, 972, CMEC
Gaza is under control by Israel’s Blockade which is still internationally recognized as Occupation.
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They are not Israeli citizens.
Yeah, because Israel doesn’t treat the West Bank and Gaza as trash.
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Gay parides aren’t enough for me to consider Israelis humanitarians. Though it’s nice they allow gay people to adopt.
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Edit: Ok, I think I replied to the wrong post.
If you can’t see that treating 10 to 15 million people is wrong (literally raping children) I don’t see why you are discussing the few gay couples with kids. What exactly is objectively better. Even before this October crap, at least one Palestinian child died per hour.
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May I ask which 10-15 million people are mistreated? Edit: grammar fix
It may not be enough but it’s still objectively better than any other country around.