• oneeyestrengthens@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    This post is completely absurd. All of these things have happened in spite of capitalism and they’ve developed simultaneously in non-capitalist states. We (mostly) have access to clean drinking water because of environmental activism that forced companies to stop dumping industrial waste in bodies of water. We have access to healthcare because activists maneuvered politically to ensure it became a right, not a privilege. That’s to say nothing of developing capitalist countries that offer none of these privileges to their people. Capitalism didn’t give us these things. If you spend any amount of time reading about the history of labor or the development of regulatory bodies, capital has hindered social progress wherever possible to avoid any restrictions or taxation. These things were demanded and fought for by the people they were affecting. Industry and finance are owed none of the credit.

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        7 months ago

        No I’m not. Capital usually refers to the individuals or corporate bodies that control or direct investment. Capital is the anticident to capitalism.

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          7 months ago

          And under capitalism, capital and labour are generally in conflict. Same way most capital owners are in conflict with each other (that’s basically the engine of growth.)

          Saying that labour battled for these advancements is no more an indictment of capitalism than the fact that McDonalds battles with Wendys for revenue.

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            7 months ago

            I’m not indicting capitalism. My point was that capitalism isn’t responsible for the last century of social improvement.