• starman2112@sh.itjust.works
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        8 months ago

        “You can just have a significantly worse experience”

        People paid $80 or more for this game, basic QoL improvements should not cost 42 real life dollars

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          8 months ago

          It’s not significantly worse, the tent is the only item in the mtx that even has any benefit over the shit available in game. Even the fast travel item you can get the maximum number in-game and need to use a consumable that isn’t even in the mtx every time you want to fast travel to it. This game and it’s devs aren’t the actual issue, it’s the people running Capcom that insist on putting bullshit mtx in every game since the first dragons dogma.

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          8 months ago

          It’s the same experience that was in the first game. It’s not worse, it’s the intended experience.

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            8 months ago

            Yeah this should be the standard right here

            This echo 64 guy really understands what gamers want. The same fucking system from the last game.

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              8 months ago

              The same system that had the majority of players begging for fast travel. They can blame the players all they want, but the fact remains that the game would be better if I didn’t have to trek from one town to the next again and again and again and again and again. The main story of the first game takes about 32 hours to beat. How many of those hours are spent walking through areas you’ve already been through?

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            8 months ago

            The “intended experience” is worse than the Super Deluxe Golden Platinum Edition experience. Do you really believe they didn’t design this game to incentivise these purchases? For one example, do you really think the fact that they sell rift crystals for real life actual dollars had no impact on their decisions for the cost of hiring pawns? Do you honestly believe that the fact that they sell lighter camping equipment had no impact on how much they made the base game camping equipment weigh? If they think it’s worth a couple dollars to get slightly lighter camping equipment, why didn’t they just reduce the weight of camping equipment?

            Do you think that maybe the decision to have one save file per player and the decision to sell a single use character redesign item might be related?

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              8 months ago

              It’s the same system as the first game. They designed the same system. I don’t know what is so hard to understand about this. They added skips for idiots that want to pay extra, but for the rest of us it’s the same damn thing as it was last time.

              Honestly, I can’t take the outrage culture of lemmy anymore. It’s made this place unbearable.

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                They designed the same system, which people complained about the first time around. Like I already said, they added skips for idiots that want to skip the boring parts. If you know that part of your $70 game is so boring that people are willing to pay extra to skip it, just don’t include those parts.

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                Thanks for confirming this, all the rage around this game is exhausting. I loved the first game, would probably place it in my top ten of all time. I have no complaints about omg actually having to traverse the world. It’s the way the game is designed to play. If there are paid workarounds to play it a different way it doesn’t affect me or anybody else who loves this kind of game.

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      8 months ago

      From a review:

      The explorers camping kit is probably the most egregious of the “DLC” So to explain, as you and your pawns battle you take damage, take enough damage and there is a portion of your HP you can’t recover with magic or items. So you’ll either have to go rest at an inn or find a bonfire to set up camp. To make camp you’ll need the camping supplies item, the ones I have found so far are very heavy in weight, which means your party won’t have much space for loot. The explorers camping kit DLC will give you 1 camping supply and make the “explorers camping kit” available to purchase within the in-game shops, and it will be much lighter in weight than the normal camping supplies. Capcom have purposely made the experience far more tedious than it need be in their fully priced AAA game so we would spend the extra money on their quality of life DLC.

      Fuck this game.

      • TimLovesTech (AuDHD)(he/him)@badatbeing.social
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        That kit is part of the Deluxe edition, or $2.99 if you want to buy just it without the other bonus items. I think calling it DLC is a stumble by CAPCOM, but this guy has made a whole lot of drama out of his entitlement over not getting items from another SKU with his FREE pre-release copy of the game he finished in advance of release.

        EDIT - Words are hard (spelling).

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          You can unlock fast travel in game. You can pay to unlock it early.

          It’s basically cheat codes as mtx. Doesnt affect the gameplay.

          All reviewers were informed that there were going to be microtransactions. Only 2 of 25 reviewers even talked about it in the reviews but both of them said the mtx doesnt have an affect on enjoying the game (the mtx are basically just for people who dont want to play the game as intended)

          Cheat codes have long been part of gaming history with. Up up down down…

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          It is, afaik all the microtransactions are available in game, most of them are even very very easily available. Capcom has been doing this for years in all their games, even Monster Hunter Rise has the character edit voucher bullshit, but people have finally called them out for it.

          • TimLovesTech (AuDHD)(he/him)@badatbeing.social
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            8 months ago

            That camp kit comes with the deluxe addition, which they probably are unaware of because they got the game for free. It also comes with one of those edit voucher things as well. I doubt I’ll ever use mine though because they also have an amazing character creator that came out weeks ago that let you meticulously design your character and your pawn. Then when you start the game they are right there as a choice. Something else they probably didn’t know because they had the game so early.

            It’s all made up of drama for clicks, and seems to be working.