• polle@feddit.de
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    11 months ago

    Iam not gen z and not offended by nudity, but mostly i find it doesn’t add to the story if the sex scenes are played out. If i want porn, i just watch porn.

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      11 months ago

      It’s not porn it’s a sex scene.

      “Show don’t tell” is the golden rule of film making. It’s way better to show relationships between people than allude to them. Of course sex scenes add to stories, sex is a normal and life changing part of people’s lives and that should be reflected in our arts and culture.

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        I work in the film business and have been on seta making the biggest movies in the world, even some of those Marvel super hero movies you mentioned. And Although I dont disagree at all those movies are really the lowest common denominator, film making for mainstream consumption is FAR less artistically expressive and driven than what most may realize. Indie films are generally far more creative during the writing and filming process and generally dive deeper into stories that absolutely merit sexual content. I dont think that’s what they are saying though. This is about mainstream media and just wanting something more creative than the same old shit time and time again in relation to sexual content. And I think that’s a fair perspective. There’s true art in film and then there’s the shit on TV and those two are nearly completely seperate.

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        11 months ago

        For sure they do, but in some series its nearly porn and doesn’t add to the story.

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          11 months ago

          Two characters having intimate relations nearly always adds to the story. Very often it’s a major plot point. I don’t know what you’re watching where two characters going at it doesn’t advance the plot in any way.

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            11 months ago

            I have seen the first season of the series the article shows. Which had more sex scenes than the plot could handle.

            Probably its just what they think the target group likes.

            And you are not getting my point. People having sex on tv is ok. Having 10+ Minute sex scenes is unnecessary and doesn’t add to the story.

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              I don’t think 10 minute sex scenes are super common though.

              But again even when they exist, of course it advances the story. Nothing changes dynamics between people like sex in reality.

              Why would media show every facet of life except sex? That’s a far weirder prospect to me.

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                  I just despise the way that people want to stifle creativity and place limits on what is and isn’t acceptable in media based on their own personal squeamishness and morals.

                  You might think ten minutes are too long. If you do it’s your right to turn it off and not watch without going on a moral rant about how it’s unnecessary.

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            Okay, but what exactly does it add once you’ve made your point that they’re banging? What additional point are you making that warrants not cutting to the next scene after that point has been established?

            Lots of film and show makers don’t ask these questions when they make their sex scenes so the result is boring filler.

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              11 months ago

              TV shows aren’t just streams of information to be imbibed by the viewer like the manual for your car.

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                11 months ago

                You’re still failing to answer the first question:

                what exactly does it add once you’ve made your point that they’re banging?

                Because…it’s not entertaining either. If I wanted to watch people bang, I’d just go find some porn.

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                  There is no point talking to you because you don’t realise different people find different values in different things. Some people would rather their TV reflected the reality of human relationships rather than being a sanitised mockery.

                  Thinking TV sex is anywhere close to pornographic in it’s current iteration is laughable

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                    There is no point talking to you because you don’t realise different people find different values in different things.

                    Sorry, I put this through my translator but all I got out was ‘i don’t actually have a point to make so I’m just going to pretend I won the argument’. Is this correct?

                    Some people would rather their TV reflected the reality of human relationships rather than being a sanitised mockery

                    It’s cute that you think the kinds of shows that have sex scenes are anything other than a mockery of human relationships in themselves. Do you not actually pay attention to the plots?