I’m sure some internet tankies are just idiots following the crowd but most are former T_D trolls trying to disrupt the formation of an anti-MAGA coalition.
I live in Florida, where Biden has zero chance. Tell me how voting for Biden is better than pissing in the wind. I’ll vote for the socialist candidate to at least help show that movement getting larger.
I appreciate the motive behind it, but I don’t think your strategy is effective until we have national ranked-choice voting.
Say you are given the choice of Starbucks drip coffee (black), or Jonestown Kool-aid. You are going to be force-fed one of them no matter what. You have a vote to choose which one you prefer.
In your scenario, you say “milkshake” in the hopes that maybe next time a milkshake will be an option, and in hopes that the rest of the voters are smart enough to avoid cyanide.
I don’t think Trump has as much of a lead as you think in Florida. It’s unlikely, especially if potential Biden voters vote third party, but it’s far from impossible. Making people believe it’s impossible is part of the strategy though. Why participate if you’re going to lose anyway, right? It’s not likely Biden wins, but it’s possible and you could actually effect it, unlike the places where Biden is guaranteed a win.
At least consider watching the polls, and if it gets closer consider changing your decision.
Now that we have a six week abortion ban, with abortion on the ballot as a state constitutional amendment, and one for legalized recreational marijuana, there is a very significant chance for Florida to be in play.
Many people here are very upset with the state of insurance, especially homeowners. The Biden campaign just came out and said they will be targeting Florida to flip it.
Every vote will count, remember a few thousand votes gave us Rick Scott, we have a chance to remove him as well. There’s a lot at stake this year.
I personally think Biden is a better choice. Even genocidal vegetable Biden.
If I was one of them I’d like to think I would. I certainly think it’s a failing on their part if they don’t all own an AK.
All I’m saying is that people can take a principled stance not to vote or to vote like a moron, and there’s no reason to be toxic or abusive about it.
I vote third party and against incumbents. Third parties need ballot access and the largest issue facing us is first past the post right now. We’re in a cycle of abuse with our current political parties, and it needs to end.
Ideologically they might be principled.
But practically they make it easier for Trump to win than if they’d recognize the real implications of the fucked up US voting system and vote for the lesser evil. And making it easier for a candidate to win is effectively support.
That it the most misguided logic. What about if George Carlin didn’t vote in this election, like he didn’t when whe was alive? Would that make him a Trump supporter?
What about if George Carlin didn’t vote in this election…
I’m pretty confident he won’t be. And to make an assumption about his hypothetical practice in a situation he never encountered is simply ascribing your views to his with a false veneer of authority.
No, I’m saying that not voting for “the right” candidate isn’t equivalent to supporting “the wrong” candidate in any situation - It’s using your vote. You suggest that the two parties have the right to hold our vote hostage because “the other guy is worse”, and I say that’s wrong and no one should stand for it. If I’m not allowed to vote for who I want because my vote is “wasted” or because you tell me I might as well be voting for the other guy, then what is a vote for?
I mean, refusing to vote for Biden while knowing full well it means Trump will get elected makes someone a Trump supporter.
I’m sure some internet tankies are just idiots following the crowd but most are former T_D trolls trying to disrupt the formation of an anti-MAGA coalition.
I live in Florida, where Biden has zero chance. Tell me how voting for Biden is better than pissing in the wind. I’ll vote for the socialist candidate to at least help show that movement getting larger.
I appreciate the motive behind it, but I don’t think your strategy is effective until we have national ranked-choice voting.
Say you are given the choice of Starbucks drip coffee (black), or Jonestown Kool-aid. You are going to be force-fed one of them no matter what. You have a vote to choose which one you prefer. In your scenario, you say “milkshake” in the hopes that maybe next time a milkshake will be an option, and in hopes that the rest of the voters are smart enough to avoid cyanide.
NARRATOR: They’re not.
Cool but the state’s choosing Jonestown Kool aid anyways so what makes asking for Starbucks coffee better than asking for a milkshake
I don’t think Trump has as much of a lead as you think in Florida. It’s unlikely, especially if potential Biden voters vote third party, but it’s far from impossible. Making people believe it’s impossible is part of the strategy though. Why participate if you’re going to lose anyway, right? It’s not likely Biden wins, but it’s possible and you could actually effect it, unlike the places where Biden is guaranteed a win.
At least consider watching the polls, and if it gets closer consider changing your decision.
Now that we have a six week abortion ban, with abortion on the ballot as a state constitutional amendment, and one for legalized recreational marijuana, there is a very significant chance for Florida to be in play.
Many people here are very upset with the state of insurance, especially homeowners. The Biden campaign just came out and said they will be targeting Florida to flip it.
Every vote will count, remember a few thousand votes gave us Rick Scott, we have a chance to remove him as well. There’s a lot at stake this year.
I’m definitely voting on the ballot measures. But unless something drastically changes it’s not gonna even be close here on the president
So we can bring up the popular vote again as argument to get rid of gerrymandering.
Also, if everyone thinks like that then it you would never notice how many actually voted a certain way.
You are playing into the Republicans playbook.
Your take is as stupid as those tankies.
We’re speaking facts, not ideology. It’s effectively what you’re doing.
It doesn’t make you a Trump supporter. For many it just makes them principled. There’s no need to gaslight people because you don’t agree with them.
It makes you a Trump supporter because your actions make it easier for Trump to win.
Blame the 2 party system, but them’s the brakes.
This is such a bankrupt and soulless view of both ethics and humanity.
If you really oppose “BiDeN’s gENoCiDe” why play political games?
Why not take direct action, it seems to be the virtue signaled by all the tankies supporting trump?
I personally think Biden is a better choice. Even genocidal vegetable Biden.
If I was one of them I’d like to think I would. I certainly think it’s a failing on their part if they don’t all own an AK.
All I’m saying is that people can take a principled stance not to vote or to vote like a moron, and there’s no reason to be toxic or abusive about it.
I vote third party and against incumbents. Third parties need ballot access and the largest issue facing us is first past the post right now. We’re in a cycle of abuse with our current political parties, and it needs to end.
No, as said: I’m not talking about ideology.
Ideologically they might be principled. But practically they make it easier for Trump to win than if they’d recognize the real implications of the fucked up US voting system and vote for the lesser evil. And making it easier for a candidate to win is effectively support.
That it the most misguided logic. What about if George Carlin didn’t vote in this election, like he didn’t when whe was alive? Would that make him a Trump supporter?
I’m pretty confident he won’t be. And to make an assumption about his hypothetical practice in a situation he never encountered is simply ascribing your views to his with a false veneer of authority.
Lol, your message is “don’t vote for Biden” not “don’t vote because voting is bullshit”.
Stop being obtuse, your political games are tired.
No, I’m saying that not voting for “the right” candidate isn’t equivalent to supporting “the wrong” candidate in any situation - It’s using your vote. You suggest that the two parties have the right to hold our vote hostage because “the other guy is worse”, and I say that’s wrong and no one should stand for it. If I’m not allowed to vote for who I want because my vote is “wasted” or because you tell me I might as well be voting for the other guy, then what is a vote for?
Quit being obtuse. The time for “the right” candidate is in the primaries. The general is for forming coalitions.