Do you think that the fediverse has something to gain with the enshitfication of discord? Are there voice chat programs in the fediverse that can benefit from it?

  • Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    IMHO, the best thing people can do to help mass migrations is to build out Lemmy’s moderation and administration tools as fast as possible.

    They’re not great right now, and it’s really hard for Lemmy to keep up with the noise, spam, and trolls that come with a bigger community.

  • lemmyreader@lemmy.ml
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    8 months ago

    I fear it is like with WhatsApp : “But all my friends are on Discord so I have no choice!”.

  • HorreC@kbin.social
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    8 months ago

    I still like guilded more then discord to start. So I wont have to move. But I wouldnt mind trying Matrix.

    • Scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech
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      8 months ago

      Revolt is so promising, except it’s not federated. I tried spinning it up today and then realized it’s local only…

      Which then even on their main page they have a pleading asking us to not host instances because the base will become fractured. Which, is solved by federation.

      • known@discuss.tchncs.de
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        8 months ago

        They have a page about federation, in which they explain why they haven’t implemented federation yet.

        In short: privacy concerns (e.g. metadata leakage), lack of devs / manpower & resources, difficulty adapting Revolts protocol to a federated one.

        I like the project. I think it would be the perfect place for Foss Projects and a good replacement for Discord, but it is in dire need of more contributors and ppl, who know how to properly integrate Federation. I’d love to see Revolt succeed.

        Currently I am short on time, but I’d love to contribute to them in the future.

  • taaz@biglemmowski.win
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    8 months ago

    The reality is there isn’t an alternative that would be easy enough for non-tech people.

    I am never getting my friends off of Discord because there is nothing else that is easy for them and has same features - texting, calling and desktop sharing with sound.

    • flux@lemmyis.fun
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      8 months ago

      Revolt.chat is quite similar to discord and open source. They do run a centralized server to make it easy for everyone to get onboard, but it can be self hosted as well.

      That being said, I still don’t use it because nobody else does, and that’s the problem with all chat and social media apps.

    • kbal@fedia.io
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      8 months ago

      Matrix is easy unless you try to do something complicated with it.

  • mark@programming.dev
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    8 months ago

    Signal app is great. Would that be a better alternative? Or is that too niche for Discord users?

  • Blackmist@feddit.uk
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    8 months ago

    I’m not convinced Lemmy-style Federation lends itself well to the Discord model.

    Like, you could have individual servers running (or maybe a server that hosts many communities), and a client that connects to all your subscribed ones, but I don’t think there’s a lot of value in sharing that data out across many servers, or somehow mangling real-time voice into that model.

    • ForgotAboutDre@lemmy.world
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      8 months ago

      Same account different servers would mimic discord. So you have one app, but the communities or ‘discord server’ can be their own instance. If it’s mimicking discord it will keep all the message boards private to users like discord, but it could still benefit from Lemmy/Mastodon integration. Many communities have a discord and a sub Reddit having the same account on both may be valuable to some people.

      I don’t know the state of voice and video calls in the fediverse, it seems to be the main benefit of discord. Otherwise discord is just a terrible closed version of forums/subreddit/communities.