Roku just invented a way for me to never ever give them any of my money.
1 step closer to “Drink Verification Can” becoming a reality
This is like really horrific but if I’m being honest, it’s not going to happen. I think LG did a patent where you had to shout the brand being displayed on ads to skip an ad— and they never did that. This is probably a good thing so that other companies can’t use it for a few hundred years
So, any recs. on good dumb tvs?
I’m upgrading to a projector soon, but also would love a few screens with actual buttons on the device incase of the inevitable remote loss.
Haven’t bought a TV in 12 years, out of curiosity - if you’re not using the smart features of the TV would not connecting it to the network not be the best solution?
I’m personally thinking of just plugging a decently capable little media PC into the display, using KDE’s “big screen” interface with KDE Connect as a remote. I’m pretty sure I could train my family on that…
Roku is so scummy.
This is my thought:
Good enough laptops are about $200, and Linux is free.
Then there are fairly good projectors for like $80 or less that have hdmi, av, rgb, etc. with an led bulb.
So, grand total about $300 for a massive screen and zero ads.
Then there are fairly good projectors for like $80 or less
Um. You and I have a very different idea of “fairly good”. The only good projector I’ve used (at work, not my own) cost $12,000. It’s overkill for a home theatre, but not by a wide margin.
If you want a projector as bright as a TV you could buy for 20 bucks at a goodwill store, you need to spend quite a bit of money on it… especially if you also want decent black levels and of course significantly larger than a cheap LCD (otherwise why get a projector).
You also forgot sound. Good speakers aren’t cheap either. And you definitely don’t want the sound coming from the projector itself. Or from your laptop speakers.
So they break HDMI compliance in other words.
Roku was such an easy recommendation for a long time… Non-complex UI, long support for updates, not owned by google or amazon… Far cheaper than LG and Samsung… (Not that Samsung’s UI is anywhere near as easy as roku)
But now I guess thats done. Unless an alternate firmware exists or this doesn’t hit older TVs I guess I’ll be looking for a new TV… Which is a shame because my current 4 year old roku TV is more than capable.
Just disconnect your TV ftom the internet right now
Right, and then not watch YouTube or Netflix or anything on my… TV… Good plan!
If only there was a way to provide a video stream to the TV without the internet! We’d be saved!
I’m really hoping they patent this and lock it away so no one can do it…
I ain’t holding my breath though
I am on board for this.
Patent it and no one else can do it.
Then if you do get or have a Roku TV, just don’t add the wifi to your TV. (I know this won’t work for the sticks, but for the cheap TV, just don’t add that to the wifi)
I know that defeats the point of a smart TV but its a lot cheaper than other screens.
Companies can use it without much trouble. They just need to licence it
Man, am I happy that I stopped using my Roku and switched to an Nvidia Shield TV. I’m also happy that I have a “dumb TV”!
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Now, the company is apparently experimenting with ways to show ads over top of even more of the things you plug into your TV.
A patent application from the company spotted by Lowpass describes a system for displaying ads over any device connected over HDMI, a list that could include cable boxes, game consoles, DVD or Blu-ray players, PCs, or even other video streaming devices.
This theoretical Roku TV’s internal hardware would be capable of taking the original source video feed, rendering an ad, and then combining the two into a single displayed image.
Among the business risks disclosed on Roku’s financial filings from its 2023 fiscal year (PDF), the company says that its “future growth depends on the acceptance and growth of streaming TV advertising and advertising platforms.”
If implemented as described, this system both gives Roku another place to put ads, and gives the company another source of user data that can be used to encourage advertisers to spend on its platforms.
It seems as though a Roku TV that was capable of this kind of ad insertion would need more sophisticated internal hardware than most current sets currently come with—this is the same company that feuded with Google a few years back because it didn’t want to pay for more-expensive chips that could decode Google’s AV1 video codec.
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This is just another really good reason to never buy a Roku TV.
How about no?
Roku is really just trying to sabotage their reputation at this point, it seems.
