• Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee
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    6 months ago

    Concise writing is a dead art, isn’t it?

    I guess the death sentence is one way to deter people from similar offences.

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    6 months ago

    I applaud holding rich people accountable, yet I’m militantly opposed to the death sentence.

    I think there’s quite some no wage labor left in them, let them try that out for a change.

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        6 months ago

        It’s reversible at least. I’m not for unusual punishment, just got the exact conditions of a Vietnamese laborer at the bottom rung.

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          6 months ago

          So you’re okay with sending someone to a work camp if “they probably did it, more than likely”? Because at least it’s reversible…

          So what if they have to spend 10 years breaking rocks in the sun. Oopsie daisies

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            6 months ago

            You misrepresent what I said. If going guilty they are eligible to do the work many do for sustenance, not heavier or more. Just what other people do.

            Not a work camp, just living the life of many.

            There’s many proud garbagemen and cleaners, of they are any good, they might even climb the division ladder. But they are last, castwise.

            Like reincarnation, only we do it right here. Garbage men are their superiors.

    • SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works
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      6 months ago

      The most difficult argument to argue against against the death penalty is that you cannot repair for the damages of executing a person you’ve wrongly convicted, if new evidence appears too late.

      This doesn’t even mean there aren’t people who deserve to die, or who deserve suffering. Rather, it’s an acknowledgement of the fallibility of human institutions.

      • Sludgeyy@lemmy.world
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        6 months ago

        That’s why death penalty shouldn’t exist for crimes like a wife killing a husband. You might be 99.9% sure she poisoned him, but you cannot know for sure.

        However, a school shooter caught red handed shooting a school?

        Some crimes and scenarios can warrant the death penalty in my mind

        Next argument is “what if the government framed people to execute them?”

        Why in the world would the government point out that they are executing someone?

        If the government (the rich controlled government) wants you dead they would do it quietly.

        Even something as simple as cutting your brake lines. You really think local police are going to figure out that the government had soldier 65478 tamper with your brake lines?

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        6 months ago

        I’m overstating, but yeah I want them alive. To eat a way out. There’s plenty menial tasks they can do .

    • Rob T Firefly@lemmy.world
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      6 months ago

      Does “militarily opposed to the death sentence” mean if someone uses the death penalty you’d want to send soldiers to kill them?

  • SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works
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    The lifestyle of Vietnam’s nouveau riche elite was exposed during the devastating trial in Ho Chi Minh City that convicted Truong My La Lan of stripping the country’s biggest bank huge sums of money in a scam worth $44 billion. (…) She broke down in tears as she battled for her life before the sentence was announced. It was “due to my lack of understanding of legal matters,” she said, that she “did the wrong things.”

    Watch me boombling and bamboozling my way around with my eyes closed and absolute zero awareness of my general environment as I accidentaly scam billions of dollars. Whoopsies.

  • wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works
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    6 months ago

    Eat the rich ✊

    On the one hand daily beast is calling it a show trial, not two sentences later they say the trial was devastating, and the rest of the article is mostly dedicated to explaining what she did and calling her and her ilk “cronies”. 🤦

  • Murvel@lemm.ee
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    6 months ago

    The cognitive dissonance in the hive mind is as strong on lemmy as it ever was on reddit, which I find interesting.

    ‘The death penalty is brutal, primitive, unjustified; corrupt billionaires should be put to death by the state.’

    These two completely incompatible sentiments have been expressed just in the last few days on this same instance.

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      It’s about balancing principles…

      On the one hand, I feel somewhat strongly that the state shouldn’t execute criminals. On the other hand, it’s more important that billionaires face the consequences of their actions like normal people do.

      In this instance, justice demands death.

      • HopingForBetter@lemmy.today
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        It’s a very hard line to tow.

        I think the death penalty should really only be allowed for mass murder / enslavement.

        However, I doubt any billionaires are innocent of enslaving people, even if it’s “I paid them ($0.07 / day, which is slave wages)!” So, fuck the ultra rich. They didn’t get there by hard work; they got there by exploiting people and the system. Finances are not unlimited, so funneling that much money to yourself means you are directly depriving whole communities of livelihood and, almost always, actual life.

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        6 months ago

        It’s about balancing principles…

        Nah, it’s more about having no principles.

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          6 months ago

          Sticking religiously to ours principles isn’t a luxury most of us have. We just have to make do with pragmatism.

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      Hint: communism doesn’t work in practice on scales the size of nations. The ideology is too fragile and susceptible to corruption and outside influence and you end up with shit like this.

      Before anyone says “it’s not real communism” that is the point. It’s useless if it’s too weak against other ideologies to be properly implemented.

      • Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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        6 months ago

        Socialism works. Workers can democratically direct production at scale. Communism is the goal, but Socialism isn’t some sacrifice to get through, it’s a marked improvement on Capitalism. Capitalism itself is the sacrifice.