Has anyone bought from here before? Looking to upgrade my NAS drives.
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Approx 35k power on hours. Tested with 0 errors, 0 bad sectors, 0 defects. SMART details intact.
That’s about 4 years of power on time. Considering they’re enterprise grade equipment, they should still be good for many years to come, but it is worth taking into consideration.
I’ve bought from these guys before, packaging was super professional. Card board box with special designed drive holders made of foam; each drive is also individually packed with anti-static bags and silica packs.
Highly recommend.
All my server drives come to me with these many hours and truck on for many years.
This is pretty standard for enterprise equipments — comes with some amount of years of warranty, enterprises depreciate the cost over that many years and sell them as/before the warranty expires to get whatever value they can get (as far as books concerned, they’re already depreciated to $0 anyway).
Came here to ask about the hours. Some quick searching looked like 5 years is an average time to failure, but that might have been for lower-grade hardware?
Backblaze has drives with very similar models in service, has an annualized failure rate of less than 1% on average, and have been in service for 5 years. The average age will continue to rise as usage time continues to rack up.
Is this a normal sound for it? https://sndup.net/bpx9/
Pretty sure that’s the usual preventive wear clicking sound that’s just part of newer drives’ design…?
They’re generally highly regarded.
Censorship of words makes me not know which definition of regarded you are using.
I too like posting cryptic, non-detailed complaints with minimal to no explanation, logic, or rationale for the express intent to sow confusion and chaos while simultaneously standing for nothing
/s
On Reddit, wallstreetbets used to call everything “retarded” and they’ve stopped and moved to “regarded” as a way of “almost” saying an offensive word.
That’s regarded
It was bad, and the funny part is that they were using Retarded as a slur too much and had it taken away after complaints from civil rights watch groups, as disabilities are a protected class, but the proponents would try to claim they were using it as a term of endearment in the ultimate bad faith argument.
Thanks for clearing up the confusion
The /s actually makes this one more sincere.
Dude what are you even trying to say here
Oh like the stonk apes
Reposting as top level comment also: these are PWDIS drives: if you’re not using them somewhere with sata 3.2/3.3, you need to use an adapter for the power plug, or some tape, to block pins 1-3 (3.3v) as supplying it to these causes them to reset. Might be worth doing the taping anyway, if you’re using an enclosure or cage (where you can’t use the adapters) Just be aware.
When I bought some of these earlier this year, the re-seller included an adapter that blocked those pins to prevent the reset issue. Didn’t know what they were for at first and almost tossed them. (I should have read the included slip of paper)
As someone who regularly ships items with a slip of paper meant to be read, this was infuriating to read. Lmao
Classic overconfidence - “I have installed a hard drive before, what could they possibly be trying to tell me on that paper?”
I learned and won’t make that mistake again… until I do
Tape it to the item.
Witg a big fat warning symbol.Anything beyond that was done in purpose
When you’re shipping one item, sure… kinda. When you’re shipping five, it doesn’t make sense to tape the exact same thing to every single one. Especially if the paper is bigger than the item.
We typically affix it to the invoice and package so it’s seen first thing. That’s the best solution we’ve come up with.
Are these good for a home server that would be always on? First time building
Would love to buy some, but shipping to EU is too expensive.
I had a similar issue with instruments once, because Thomann is cheaper by a factor of 10 to USA equivalents.
Thomann crew checking in! Bought my first “real” guitar from them and she’s still my favourite despite being given a Les Paul by Bowling For Soup this year. I really should play that baby
Bowling For Soup have been cool for so long, very underappreciated.
I * think * those were the brand I bought?
Regardless, 80 for 12 TB is a steal.
How are the doing so far?
No issues what’s so ever. Have them in a four drivE QNAS. I was a bit concerned about them being cheaper drives initially but after I got them installed I literally haven’t thought about them again in terms of reliability.
0 complaints and they seem to be doing about as well as some more expensive drives might be.
Thank you, I was getting some buyer’s regret because of the hast decision to buy.
I mean, I don’t know your use case, but as a self-hoster/ research scientist, I think my usage is much much. And I do rely on mine for business, as my wife and I both rely on it for hosting our data, which for me is large geospatial datasets, and when I’m doing large compute runs, there are many many read writes. We also store a large amount of music/ videos for streaming and running a jelly fin server. Thats been fine as well. I think since in our case we don’t have a ton of people hitting the server at once, its just never as stressed as it might be in a corporate/ multi user environment.
Thank you, I also know it’s a lottery and hopefully I get a nice unit.
I’m going to use it solo as a home server to sync, store and read data. And eventually as a streaming server for jelly fin too, mostly for myself only too.
What’s the catch? Is there a catch?
These are used drives that have about 35K hours (4 years) of power on time.
Good quality drives to be sure, but maybe not as reliable now as they once were.Refurbished drive. I’ve had 4 white label drives running for a number of years without issue, planning on eventually getting 12 more and maxing out my servers.
Unfortunately that’s years down the line :(2nd catch, behind the power on time: PWDIS drives: if you’re not using them somewhere with sata 3.2/3.3, you need to use an adapter for the power plug, or some tape, to block pins 1-3 (3.3v) as supplying it to these causes them to reset. Might be worth doing the taping anyway, if you’re using an enclosure or cage (where you can’t use the adapters)
I just bought two of their 12TB for $100 each and they were the manufactured recertified. One had like 8 hours run time and the second had like 36 hours so brand new for the lifetime of a hard drive. So far no issues. Also beware these drives are very loud.
Refurbished drives get their SMART data reset during the process, they absolutely had more than that originally.
I think there is a difference on Refurbished drives and Manufactured recertified. On server part deals the prices were different and manufactured recertified being a little more expensive for the same drive. So I assumed the drives were send back from a data center and tested again but they cant be spelled as new.
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Is this a normal sound for it? https://sndup.net/bpx9/
Yeah I think that’s normal , I moved my NAS to a closet because of how loud the drives are. I wasn’t even able to sleep with that noise lol
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Read it as 120TB at first and my eyes nearly jumped out of their sockets.
Do HDDs noticably degrade when powered off? I’m thinking about getting one of these for cold storage backups. Also, how much of an impact does repeated power cycling have on lifespan?
HDDs are your best option for long-term storage. Every storage mechanism fails eventually but HDDs are convenient, last long, and have excellent data recovery.
They do, but not so much that your average home user would notice without having more than enough time to fix the problem.
I have six 14TB drives in my NAS from serverpartdeals. Never had a problem with any of them.
If I may, what do you do with 84TB in your Nas ?
Never ask a man his pay, a woman her weight, or a data horder the contents of their stash.
Jk. Mostly.
I have a similar-ish set up to @Davel23 , I have a couple of cool use cases.
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I seed the last 5 arch and opensuse (a few different flavors) ISOs at all times
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I run an ArchiveBot for archive.org
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I scan nontrivial mail (the paper kind) and store it in docspell for later OCR searches, tax purposes etc.
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I help keep Sci-Hub healthy
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I host several services for de-googling, including Nextcloud, Blocky, Immich, and Searxng
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I run Navidrome, that has mostly (and hopefully will soon completely) replace Spotify for my family.
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I run Plex (hoping to move to Jellyfin sometime, but there’s inertial resistance to that) that has completely replaced Disney streaming, Netflix streaming, etc for me and my extended family.
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I host backups for my family and close friends with an S3 and WebDAV backup target
I run 4x14TB, 2x8TB, 2x4TB, all from serverpartsdeals, in a ZFS RAID10 with two 1TB cache dives, so half of the spinning rust usable at ~35TB, and right now I’m at 62% utilization. I usually expand at about 85%
I been wanting to self host my own S3 Server may I ask how you do it?
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I’ve bought a fair amount of drives from them and have had no issues, just today I got in some seagate exos 2x18 drives from them and their packaging was as professional ever.
Thanks for the post. I just bought 4 of them as a stopgap.
“Seller refurbished” just means they’re used and were tested, right?
Most likely, yes
It means they put a new sticker over the old one, and they don’t rattle when you shake them.
A hell of a deal
