The company’s team clarified that their terms prohibit third-party apps from disabling ads, as it denies creators their due reward for viewership. Although the announcement did not specify any app by name, it’s plausible to presume that third-party YouTube apps such as NewPipe, YouTube ReVanced, Piped, and others might be implicated.
they still havent cracked down on firefox + ublock
But they tried so hard…
And got so far, but in the end it doesn’t really matter
One thing, I don’t know why
I bought a PS5 with no games to buy
Still dont know what the big deal is, libretube and freetube still work fine. Same with firefox and uBlock.
“Finally”?
They’re not doing a very good job
And I’m here for it. uBlock Origin, NewPipe, and Grayjay all work fine. If those stop working, I’ll also stop using YouTube.
Good thing Firefox for Android allows plug-ins now. That’s been my go-to mobile YouTube viewer ever since. It’s almost as good as my desktop experience.
Get off of Chrome
Get off of YouTube
Get off of gmail
Get off of Google
Theres a whole big internet out there. You don’t have to limit yourself to one single company.
Problem is, there’s shitton of content that needs to be archived and moved from YouTube, if YouTube stops to exist then all tutorials and teaching videos and all previously produced content will be gone, people want this content, so only true solution is somehow archive all YouTube videos and move them from YouTube, until it’s done, YouTube will have monopoly, and it’s bad situation we’ve found ourselves in
Peertube might be a fediverse-friendly place to archive such content.
Yes, the only problem is storage, with development of bcachefs it could be possible to have raid6 and block level deduplication and transparent compression, because content would be archived by the community after all and common people like you and me can’t build whole datacenters, but just homelabs from used PCs and secondhand server HDDs
The bigger proplem is copyright. Google will fight for ‘their’ creators if they discover you archiving anything. They don’t own copyrights but will tell the court that if the creator wanted their content on peertube they would have put it there.
Peertube is akin to torrent network if i remember correctly, thus, homeservers with vpn solve such problems
Not hard to trace down who is seeding a torrent and deal with them.
Alright, you win, community will never win as you’re saying, you’re saying that instead of seeking solutions everyone should give up
I can’t get off of YouTube because there’s 20+ creators that are like family to me.
Check if they have channels elsewhere, a few of mine are on Odysee or Nebula. If that’s the case, look into Grayjay, which is an Android app to access a bunch of video services with one interface. It’s still a bit rough, but it’s serviceable, and it allows downloading videos, which is cool.
Keep those, but find new ones elsewhere.
YouTube is the only one that doesn’t have an alternative. I mean, there are other video hosts yes, but the content isn’t there.
The creators need to start moving. Their fans will likely follow, since it’s not YouTube they are there for. But I don’t think anyone else offering free, large scale video hosting does much more, if even that, than what YouTube does. Even if it sucks, it’s better than nothing, so there is no incentive to move for anyone.
Problem being that there is no real incentive to do so, unless PeerTube finds a way to pay content creators. Until then, switching away from YouTube means loosig their revenue stream…requiring them to take up jobs to pay the bills and eventually have less time for content creation.
Living on donations and patreon alone is hard…
unless PeerTube finds a way to pay content creators
Google is a for-profit organization. Framasoft, which developed PeerTube, is a non-profit one. The only way to pay content creators is when people donate money to PeerTube and then PeerTube share that money with creators. Which is also difficult because there are no trackers to know internally who has more subscribers or which video has more views, etc. Internally as using a tracker, but you have to visit one by one every channel and every video to know its numbers.
Nebula is trying to be the alternative. It’s a paid subscription and not as plentiful as YouTube is (and maybe never will be).
But it’s a good try, give it some support, if you can
It isn’t much better in terms of content moderation though. In fact probably worst.
They kicked off JT, of Second Thought one of the original creators, for refusing to make a both sides statement about Palestine.
Most of their fans won’t follow. Convenience is a powerful thing.
There also really aren’t other options. Anyone being able to sign up and host video for free is an extremely expensive service to provide if people take you up on it.
If enough creators moved, the fans would follow.
Unfortunately, the creators won’t move to a platform that doesn’t have users to watch them. And users won’t bother with a platform that doesn’t have creators to watch.
While this can be overcome… Yeah, I think googie will need to fork up yootoob a lot more before enough on both sides are willing to jump ship en masse
I tried Nabula twice. The latest in 2020.
Service is fine but their UI + search and discover is awful. Like I can barely find creators I like when I search for their exact channel name.
There is also PeerTube and Odysee.
But I have a mixed feelings on the latter.
Off Google - super easy Off Gmail - you’ll still be fighting to get into someone inbox but there are many options still Off Chrome - getting harder and harder, the only option is Firefox Off YouTube - sorry, nowhere to go
That’s a stupid point to make tbh, because the most important information, knowledge and entertainment is on their platforms in a quality and quantity that is unprecedented. Meaning you can try to avoid it, but from time to time you have to use google/gmaps/yt/…
And that’s coming from me… someone who degoogled their smartphone.
Did you De-qualcomm it too, or not affected?
Realistically Google Search and Google Maps don’t provide anything unique that isn’t provided by competitors, although a) they may provide a superior experience, and b) the competitors are not necessarily much more palatable (that is, Bing Search and Bing Maps are hardly a great ethical improvement).
YouTube is probably the only Google service where this is a genuine monopoly of sorts. That is, content that is on YouTube is not generally available on other platforms, and if you want to watch that content you have to watch it on YouTube. We might all live for the day when all content creators are dual-hosting in PeerTube or the like too, but we’re a long long way from that right now.
Although I write that as someone who only very rarely actually uses YouTube, because largely the content isn’t to my interest. Other than my local football club’s channel, I can’t think of anything on there that I actually seek out.
Getting off youtube is pretty difficult with no true alternative.
You forgot to add get off Android, which would also mean just going Apple. There is no good alternative there either.
I’m excited about Linux phones like the Pinephone, but they’re really not ready for anything more than Linux enthusiasts to flex. I was hoping to switch, but I need a new phone now, so I’ll probably get a Pixel and put GrapheneOS on it. At least that way I control what data Google gets access to.
No, GrapheneOS is a great Android OS tbh
I use GOS but… Google phone…
I honestly don’t have a problem buying stuff from Google, provided they don’t get to hoover up my data. And I can buy that Google Phone from eBay or something instead.
Theres always Apple
Thanks, I like having control over my own device. And having both kidneys.
My main issue is not that the phones are Google but that they are flagships only. Completely unaffordable new, cost like a normal phone when used thus overpriced for their condition, and the only ones that cost somewhat like a normal phone new are the ones on which Graphene is EOL. I guess EOL Graphene is still better than a stock OS with updates, but a full phone price for something out of support is still massive overpaying.
We have to make the alternatives. As Lemmy is an alternative to reddit, PeerTube could be an alternative to YouTube.
YouTube is not a mandatory necessity. We live in a world of infinite sources of recreation. Get off YouTube has absolutely no requirement for an alternative to exist. Like alcohol, music, books, or whatever, you can only just not do it.
Youtube is a fantastic learning tool for diy, how to vids, reviews, education, etc. The lost goes on, and yea it has crap too, but there’s so much use for it in every day life also. Brushing it off would be literally like saying “dlstay away from books, there’s so many other thongs you could be looking at”.
YouTube is the internet for me. Of my internet usage over 95% is watching YouTube
Honestly, I pay for YouTube Premium but I still use Revanced and NewPipe for the extra features. Why can’t they just leave me alone?
Am I weird? I don’t mean ads, I have no problem with them.
Just make me use an open source client.NewPipe works by fetching the required data from the official API (e.g. PeerTube) of the service you’re using. If the official API is restricted (e.g. YouTube) for our purposes, or is proprietary, the app parses the website or uses an internal API instead. This means that you don’t need an account on any service to use NewPipe.
So NewPipe doesn’t use yt API and it never accepted its terms, so NewPipe is safe (from my understanding)
YouTube already denies many creators of their due rewards from viewership over trivial things like saying the word “hell” in a video. it’s obviously something more considering it’s Google we’re talking about.
The company’s team clarified that their terms prohibit third-party apps from disabling ads
Most 3rd party apps dont disable it. They just dont implement it
I googled. I read that Youtube took down Vanced. True? Can Youtube use the way they took down Vanced for Revanced?
Vanced got taken down due to trademark violations.
They need something more substantial for revanced. Especially since it’s only a set of binary patches and there is no redistribution of YT source code.
I knew it was only a matter of time before alternative YouTube clients started getting banned. You can’t “stick it to Google” while still relying on their servers to host the videos. We need to support Lemmy-like services that are distributed and host their own content and communities for video.
That’s peertube, right? A slight problem is that a lot of the popular content is only on YouTube for the money. Better patronage or sponsoring systems would help with that. For ones not in it for the money, knowing there’s a solid service with community would probably suffice.
There is more cntent than you hake time to watch. Look to peertube and suyport what is there.
I’m not going to watch terrible content for the sake of watching terrible content.
I’m not asking that. I’m asking you to find the good content when it is there and wetch that instead. I do watch youtube when I’m out of interesting things on peertube but peertube gets first obportunity for my eyes.
The only way to “support peertube by watching there” is to watch bad content.
There isn’t any meaningful amount of good content there.
But Youtube already take more than half of what creator should earn.
Do you know how much it costs to build and host a video platform?
I googled. Isn’t it 45% Youtube and 55% vid producer?
If they don’t get demonitized or falsely copyright claimed.
even though this may be inconvenient, it will likely help migrating good content to less shitty platforms/companies in the long run.
I admire your optimism. I don’t share it, but I admire it.
