I love all the long waiting and useless messages that comes with it, too.
- Preparing to download.
- Downloading. useless progress percentage
- Preparing to install.
- Installing. more useless progress percentage
- Please do not turn off your computer.
- “Hi”.
meanwhile updates on linux telling me exactly what is happening in real time, working completely in the background, and politely informing me that i may wish to reboot to apply all the updates properly
Windows: Imma let you finish but first we gotta update my man. Will only take an hour. Maybe three.
Linux: Save the drama for your mamma.
Linux updates are much superior, but Windows updates have not taken more than 5 minutes for me for a long time.
I just hate all the reboots. Linux can update everything, even kernels now, and no downtime. Reminds me of crap home internet routers: “oh you changed the date&time? Then I gotta reboot”
The routine Windows updates do go pretty quickly, but the “cumulative updates” can still take a very long time in my experience. I have to patch multiple servers and workstations at my job and it sucks. And if you have a hyper-v guest that lies dormant most of the time, but you need to update it once or twice a month, may the gods help you. Takes forever to even CHECK for updates, because Windows freaks the hell out if your PC remains turned off for a period of time.
Then,
-Please try Edge
Don’t forget when the update stage actually reads 100%, which makes no logical sense because if the stage was at 100%, you wouldn’t still be telling me we are processing it as the current stage.
I remember Nintendo Wii.
Nintendo: “Hey, a new system update is here.”
Me: “So what’s new?”
Nintendo: (shrug)
Homebrew people: “This patch changed nothing, except they tried to plug a hole. Damn, took us almost 10 minutes to counteract that this time!”
(OK, there was one system update where they added the ability to run stuff off of the SD card, but beside that, there were a whole bunch of updates where they tried to stay ahead of homebrew/pirates and failed spectacularly.)
The old paradox of Microsoft security updates. The more frequent they are, the more they look like they’re staying on top of things. While at the same time showing the world there are a lot of frikkin’ security holes in Windows all the time.
If they told people it was just to add more “telemetry” and ads, they wouldn’t install it.
do they give you the option to not install? i remember windows just updating without ever asking anything
There are ways around it, but yeah, I think they pretty much get forced on most users afaik.
There are songs tools which will disable update altogether, Windows Update Blocker… But you know, use at your own risk or whatever.
Ads.
They just don’t want to tell you about them.
They want you to find out organically and immediately explode into inconsolable incandescent rage as you tear your system inside out to remove them.
New ads.
And sometimes it corrupts your drives. Just for fun.
Don’t forget new keywords to trigger bing search in the start menu vs opening the local program.
They built a web browser into my start menu.
Why…
Microsoft: Will somebody please use Edge. Anyone. Please? No, using it to download Firefox doesn’t count!
choco install firefoxI don’t think we ever have to touch Edge!
Or winget install
I am here to complain about how bad winget is. Have not tried the alternatives on windows. I assume they arr much better, mostly because it’s almost impossible to make them worse.
How did you install chocolatey or downloaded the script to install it?
winget install chocolateyif I rememberIf you are fine with touching winget to download something, you probably should be fine by touching edge to download something.
This comment and subsequent responses are making me wonder now, if you somehow dug out a 15 year old flash drive with like a Firefox 3 installer on it or something, could you get that up and running and eventually updated to the current version?
It’s not like they’re the first ones to do it either. Ubuntu did it before them and it was a massive disaster. Miscrosoft couldn’t not have noticed it. They’ve seen what happened, and they went “Yes, that’s exactly what we want” anyway.
there are detailed changelogs for almost every single KB on Microsoft’s website
Yup
Here are the changelogs of the latest 23H2 update, and all the smaller incremental updates:
Microsoft software is well documented
Hm. That’s very generic and seems to only describe the software behavior from a user perspective. When I’m looking for a change log, I’m thinking of something like this: https://github.com/evcc-io/evcc/releases (came to mind because evcc was the last thing I updated).
I always read details of updates before I do them. Sort of sad to see most people don’t.
I know it’s fun to bash on Microsoft, but:
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Updated the
tracking analyticscustomizations and user info prompt we spam you with every time you restartJust resetting your preferences to Microsofts preferences. They have to do that frequently; otherwise you might start to think it’s your machine.
Dunno, but graphics drivers stopped working again! Go reinstall them!
I’ll stick with my sudo apt update and sudo apt upgrade
With the millions of updates they keep pushing, you’d think by now, they would have fixed their drivers going stale out of nowhere and shit just stops working until you remove and reinstall them and reboot, for some weird reason.
Wut? If the driver fails for some reason, it gets restarted in the background and you get a small notification in the tray about that. That’s all, no need to reinstall anything.
Ooooof. Just this last week I had to remove the drivers for my headsets completely, reboot and then reinstall. Same with the docking station. Shit happens all the time.
Drivers for a headset? Wtf is this?
Yup. A Plantronics headset. My docking station goes through this, too, where it just stops working. Then I’d have to remove the driver’s and reinstall. I know, it’s ridiculous.
