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Windows 11 definitely has its issues, but I don’t think the author of this article has sufficient knowledge to be writing articles about it.
There’s not a great solution for switching to UEFI in an existing install
MBR2GPT is baked into Windows and works great as long as you don’t have a jacked up partition layout.
Windows 11 demands a Trusted Platform Module (TPM) 2.0 security coprocessor, which isn’t in many PCs that meet all the other requirements.
Part of the reason that Intel 8xxx and Ryzen 2xxx processors are the baseline “requirement” is that they have fTPM 2.0 embedded in the silicon. It’s actually in the overwhelming majority of devices that meet the other requirements.
There appears to be no loss in functionality when bypassing the installation requirements… so why do they exist?
Microsoft could provide a more limited Windows 11 experience to PCs that don’t meet the strict requirements
By providing and sanctioning a “limited” experience, Microsoft would then have to dedicate resources to supporting that experience. I’ve worked with tons of legacy devices that had odd quirks that required workarounds in Windows 10, so I can’t really blame them for wanting to limit how they spend their support resources.
I second MBR2GPT. With a guide it’s quite straightforward to migrate from BIOS to EUFI but probably too scary for the average user.
No, you can’t blame them. You also can’t blame people for not upgradeing. The truth is picking totally arbitrary install requirements, especially ones that favour new hardware to high end ones alienated the early adopter base. Also microsoft killed any goodwill againtst them by bloating windows even more.
It’s not arbitrary. Securing an OS today is a huge challenge and Microsoft wants to leverage this tech to facilitate this. New hardware supports it, a lot of older hardware supports it and they strongly encourage this as the new standard.
Yes it means some people won’t update without workarounds but they are setting a standard moving forward and for supported hardware, they were quite aggressive with the upgrade (I had to make sure the TPM was disabled in BIOS on a machine I didn’t wish to upgrade early on).
What exactly is TPM used for in Windows 11?
It allows Windows to create and store cryptographic keys and validate OS and firmware components haven’t been tampered with.
Okay, how is that inherently useful? All any form of trusted boot does is make sure, that the OS is whatever the manufacturer approves. If that is an outdated image full of backdoors and exploits, than that is what the TB enforces. TECHNICALLY a phone on android 2 is secure (by this logic) because the TB enforces that awfully outdated image. All trusted boot is good for is to make sure you can’t run acutally secure software on your device
I’ve stayed away from Windows 11 because of the bloatware and TPM requirements. Turns out, my old processor that was rejected by Microsoft actually had TPM 2.0, it just needed to be enabled from the BIOS. Well, I installed it a few days ago and everything look great. The bloatware was a problem but there are FOSS apps for that. The UI looks clean, the taskbar is uncluttered, and I feel stupid for not updating before. I don’t know if I’m the minority here but I think that for most users Windows 11 is easier and more accessible.
I would say there’s less bloatware that win10. None of that weird candy crush shit they pulled. I personally prefer 11, I use it on my work laptop but because of the TPM requirement my gaming PC that I had recently got a new motherboard for just before the requirements were announced, I’m still stuck on 10 with that.
Strange about your motherboard. I have an older one and just had to enable it via BIOS. I’ve heard some support it as an add-on module.
No internal tpm and no slot from what i can tell.
If you have an 8th gen Intel / Ryzen 2000 series or newer.
You need to confirm that you have secure boot enabled. CSM disabled and the TPM features enabled. Depending on which setting is holding you back you may need to reconfigure your existing windows installation to boot again.
I did too, until I got a new PC 😐
ITT: People who just read the headlines and not the article, and then going off on their own Windows rant/Linux evangelism instead of discussing the article.
A certified Lemmy/Reddit classic.
I hardly ever saw Linux evangelism on Reddit. It’s honestly becoming about on par with veganism at this point… And that’s coming from someone that uses and enjoys Linux.
I see it more of a response of the dumpster fire that is Windows and Microsoft.
A someone running a proxmox cluster on my gaming PCs, why not just use all of the above? Hell, I still have an XP VM on there somewhere for some particularly grouchy games.
Don’t see a need, basically. What games require XP though? So far all my old games still work on 10.
XP was the last Windows OS that supported 16 bit code if I recall correctly, so there’s that. Although most games that needed that are better off with something like DOSbox.
Ah yes, I suppose there’s that, and I’ve been running the really old games on Dosbox too.
I read the article! It suggests in a hundred different ways that Windows 11 sucks and that sticking it out with Windows 10 is a bad idea for a dozen different reasons.
The people here suggesting Linux nailed it. If you’re not using Linux at this point you’re just being lazy, IMHO. If you have any issues you can always just troubleshoot and fix it but based on the anecdotes posted so far it’s obvious no one claiming to have tried Linux has done much of that.
Get off your ass and learn something new for real or stop bitching and bend over for Microsoft with your wallet ready to pay them afterwards for the privilege.
People bitching about Windows on their personal PCs is like people who don’t vote bitching about politics.
No, I just want to use my time in other ways, thank you. You can call it lazy, but that’s what it is. Windows 10 still works, the issues won’t come till 2025, and regardless, Windows 11 issues are mostly personal preferences (I just want my task bar to work in a certain way).
This religious-like evangelising over Linux is such a turn off, regardless of whatever technical merits the OS might have. It’s definitely not moving the needle for me, and it’s turning me off the fediverse.
Linux is great but it’s not always an option. It doesn’t run every app or game that Windows has (Proton is great but it’s not 100%), or maybe you’re doing dev work that has to be on a Windows machine, or you’re using some hardware that isn’t supported well in Linux. I switched off Linux to Windows (and then later to macOS) partially because Photoshop and Lightroom are pretty great tools for my job and the workarounds/alternatives weren’t cutting it.
Putting this burden straight on the consumer is stupid. Most people don’t care about what’s running on their machines and have absolutely no interest in learning it. Same thing with cars, you know how to operate it and that’s enough for 95% of the people. I agree that Linux is not that hard to learn and understand but that’s already too much for the standard consumer.
The issue is and has always been with Microsoft and the deals it had with OEM and governments. It locked us into a Microsoft only world (office being absolutely everywhere, windows installed by default on 99% of hardware etc.), and things that were unveiled by the Halloween Papers etc… Microsoft changed its stance on FOSS but it’s only because they managed to profit from it (azure mostly). It’s still the same garbage company.
If you’re not using Linux at this point you’re just being lazy
I used Linux for over twenty years and stopped about two years ago due to Linux invariably moving to lazy, poor development and design all the way from the kernel up. Rapid kernel development with tons of random new patches and ideas instead of the old way of maintaining a stable kernel and doing random patches and ideas on a separate branch (the odd minor versions vs. the stable even ones, and even the modern “stable” kernels are just the same branch of constantly rapid updated kernels where they just choose one at random and say “this is ‘stable’ now and we’ll keep patching it instead of telling people to install new ones”), systemd being more of a problem than a solution, the push for everything to move to Wayland forcing every single thing that has to do with lower level desktop interfaces, including all of the lightweight window managers, to completely rewrite themselves with tons of bloat that replaces everything X.org did by default as well as Wayland’s devs taking a “it works on my computer” approach to bugs and dismissing tons of major issues people have found, pipewire still not being a stable, reliable audio system (Linux has never had one, but using ALSA with the right hardware back in the day where everything would mix via hardware was a decent solution), distros becoming more and more unreliable and buggy (even “stable” and “long term support” ones), distros and developers giving up on native and running bare metal applications and substituting things like flatpak to run things natively with any sort of cross-platform reliability and fucking wine – essentially a new version of Windows running in Linux, which is an admission of failure to make a successful game platform if I’ve ever heard one – to run games, and on and on.
I’ve been able to use Linux very well until a few years back. I used to be one of its biggest advocates and wouldn’t dare run Windows.
No more. People bitch, moan, and complain about Windows 11 so much but for me, it just works. Simply, easily, no problem. Do I wish I still used Linux? Hell, yes. But am I given how bad it’s become? Nope. I’ve even tried going back here and there and quickly ran into the same huge list of problems and aches that were never there before and back to Windows I go.
Sorry, Linux is a pain and it’s not about being lazy, it’s about wanting to use a decent OS that just works as well as Linux used to.
I’ve been using Linux since 2008, and yours and my experience is basically opposite. I stayed on X until about a year ago, and haven’t had any problems with Wayland. PipeWire was basically immediately better as soon as Fedora switched to it. I could use Jack plugins and patch bays with my pulse apps, including all the electron apps, like Discord. Systemd has always been better than sys5 init. Maybe you don’t remember how bad the old init daemon was.
I’m sorry you had trouble with Linux though.
I remember the old initd. It was fast, efficient, didn’t hang up for 10+ minutes when it got confused about what needed to shut down when, and just worked until a bunch of impatient new Linux users wanted to get to the desktop in 0.00007 seconds and couldn’t patiently wait for a proper init boot order so they created this bloated monstrosity. But those aren’t even the worst part of NuLinux: to this day Wayland is absolute unstable garbage not worth using. Visual glitches, UI glitches, instability, slowdowns, and outright crashes that even REISUB can’t recover from. Meanwhile, Xorg still Just Works.
Modern Linux is garbage and needs to be either fixed or thrown away.
That’s a really well written article.
Looks like I’ll be going Linux. Better OS for casual use anyway.
The Windows 11 problemThe problem: Windows 11
FTFY
I’ve been gradually shifting over to Linux ever since Windows 10 launched and even back in the days of Windows 7 really and the further Microsoft gets from its roots the closer I get to Linux.
I can understand that sometimes hardware needs to be deprecated, but windows 11 is trying to ditch hardware that is still quite new. And with all the chip problems and expenses it has not been so feasible to “just” get something more up to date.
If I’m going to buy something with the same money that I bought what I have now I’m going to end with about the same pefromance of what I have.
They are giving up on UWP? Fuck yeah
They used to say that 10 would be the last version and they’d just update that
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Windows 11 soon gets more AI integration. Scanning all your files and content of files, this is no conspiracy. Deleting your Microsoft account if it detects misbehavior, even if you never shared this private info with anyone. You’ll also not be able to program anything you want anymore, because if the AI detects it’s possibly malicious, it will delete your Microsoft account.
It’s probably a lot of fun if you have stuff on your onedrive or use outlook.
Why is there so little outrage about this? I hope it doesn’t release for win10 or is blockable.
Edit: first is German though https://tarnkappe.info/artikel/netzpolitik/microsofts-neuer-servicevertrag-erlaubt-totalueberwachung-aller-nutzer-280856.html
https://www.microsoft.com/de-de/servicesagreement/default.aspx
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/DigitalSafety/moderation-and-enforcement/content-detection
I have not seen anything about Microsoft accounts getting deleted for AI falsely identifying something as malicious. Windows Defender and OneDrive do scan your files for malware, yeah.
I linked sources.
Edit: so apparently people try to hide it or why the downvotes?
Those links just say that illegal content uploaded to Microsoft services might get your account suspended, which is how pretty much every online service works. There’s a higher bar than “misbehavior”.
That’s the original video about it.
Enable English subtitles.That’s a video editorializing the article that was already editorializing the Microsoft support pages. That’s just a game of telephone with everyone in the process trying to make it sound scarier than it actually is.
If you added your Microsoft account to your windows, then you use their services and therefore agree to the new SLAs, to do whatever they please. It’s vague on purpose, to give them maximum freedom to do so. That they scan your uploads is nothing new.
You’re just saying how most TOA’s are…they’re hardly ever enforced that way, just because of the publicity it would give them. And most TOA’s aren’t even legally binding and this is definitely something that would face litigation.
If your issue with it is the vagueness, you might as well get off the grid now. Most TOA’s are written that way.
Sources that don’t actually prove anything aren’t good sources…
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I’ll switch to Linux the moment Playnite gets a native working port on Linux and not a moment sooner. All my laptops run some flavour of Linux, but my gaming… I need playnite, it’s just so nice to use.
You don’t really need to learn any commands for distros like Mint Linux or Pop!OS. For most people, they could switch without even really noticing that much of a change.
If you require specific programs for work, I would not recommend making the change at this time.
Idk, like if the average person is the one who uses the os as a bootloader for $whatever_browser, then there’s little to no difference. And if some windows-specific software is necessary, then windows is just way easier, I guess (wine works fine for me personally, tho).
On the other hand, if you want the os to behave the way you want, then Linux is way simpler.
