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Banned for everyone?
There’s a bill proposal to ban HRT for minors. But we know that it’s how that begins: you start with minors and you go as high as you can until you can ban it for everyone…
Not really.
Banned for minors.
For now, in France, minors can have puberty blockers, hormones, and breast surgery (it’s quite rare, needs parental consent, and the process is so long that the surgery usually happens after 18).
I say “for now” because many of us fear that the ban will be extended to adults sooner or later. Transidentity is the new moral panic in France, and the far right is getting dangerously close to power.
Are they talking a ban for adults?
Not officially.
But on the discord server of one of the anti-trans groups behind the proposed law, discussions are talking about banning minors as a first step.
What an excellent question
france be like “not only do we want to be rabidly islamophobic we want to be transphobic as well”
I swear that country/culture has zero volume control. You are either the most nationalist French person who ever frenched and the rest of the world is anglo swine who have contributed nothing of value or you are so international and progressive you worry that a red flag doesn’t include the colorblind.
Come on guys, chill the fuck out. You can have a protest without burning a thousands cars and you are allowed to be indecisive wishy-washy moderate.
I asked a friend of mine who had immigratied from France about this once. He told me all their normal boring political types just spend their entire career in local office. That’s why you don’t hear about them. Which fine whatever.
Very islamophobic of them to import half of north africa
And France is Islamophobic because…?
Assuming you want to know why France is islamophobic…
It’s historically grown. France invaded majority muslim, north Africa in the 19th century. Present day Algeria was french territory. The native muslim population was brutally oppressed; somewhat comparable to the oppression of blacks in the US. Nevertheless, the Muslims were french and fought for her in its wars, such as in the trenches 1914-18.
Algeria eventually won its independence after a brutal war lasting from 1954 to 1962. The brutality of this civil war is showcased by the massacre in Paris in 1961. Police attacked a peaceful demonstration for independence, murdering dozens, maybe hundreds of citizens. The police chief was a criminal nazi collaborator, convicted for his role in the holocaust. For decades, information about the massacre was suppressed in France.
President Charles de Gaulle - formerly the leader of Free France, the french forces that did not surrender to the nazis - brokered independence for Algeria. In response, far right traitors attempted a coup d’état and to assassinate him.
In many ways this history is comparable to the terrorist campaign that the US far right unleashed in the 1950/60 against African Americans and the civil rights movement. But the struggle was far more brutally fought in France. Hundreds of thousands were killed. Over a million people, mainly of european descent, were forced to flee from what became Algeria.
The decades after Algerian independence will seem quite familiar to Americans. North African Muslims had become a minority in metropolitan France (the mainland). This hated minority was quietly, without much legal upheaval, pushed to the fringes of society. Information about past atrocities against them was suppressed. Small scale terror attacks continued to happen.
These are the origins of the french far right and its islamophobia.
Because Muslims are increasingly marginalised, disenfranchised and used as a scapegoat for everything that goes bad?
Yes that does sound like the definition of an islamophobic country. I think the question is, how specifically?
Pretty sure the OP was a troll, actually.
Anyhow, if you want specifics, we currently have 90 far right MPs in Congress and even our “centrist” government and the “classic right” seem to have decided muslims are to blame for everything. This includes and is not limited to :
- banning “muslim adjacent” wear like abbayas from schools ;
- a broad offensive to remove pork free meals from school lunches in some cities ;
- à brutal crackdown on any pro Palestinian action, including summons from anti terrorism units that have targeted union leaders, students and leftwing MPs ;
- targeting of muslim private schools for closure whereas radical catholic schools are absolutely fine even when they teach gay people are all rapists (see Lycée Stanislas for a very striking example) ;
- repeated incidents of police disproportionately targeting muslims ;
- a general attitude of paranoia regarding anything muslim : last year our Home Office equivalent actually asked primary schools to provide a list of pupils that missed class because of specifically muslim religious holidays.
I’m sure I’m forgetting a lot of things. But also, I can see everyday around me how hard muslim people, but also any arab looking person, have it in the public eye. The far right is on the rise politically but also socially. Anything that “does not belong”, be it LGBTQ, non white people, etc is increasingly targeted by pressure groups of "concerned citizens ", “protector of the peace,”, “defender of children” and so on. It worries me. A lot.
If only Americans protested like the French, we’d be in such a better place. Politicians would actually work for us, I hope they win continued access to gender affirming care!
I mean the recent university protests in the US are a good first step. To socially normalize protesting there is no other way than just doing more protesting.
Damn right. They take away Union benefits from one worker the rest of them shut down the Country!
In USA they fire half the staff, double the workload for no extra pay for the remaining and they think “at least I still have my job…”
Yeah, that mentality of ‘at least I still have my job’ with the added cost of work/life imbalance and stress is wild to me! Corporations shouldn’t have so much power as their staff are the ones bringing in the profits. Sane business models can be profitable, respecting their staff’s time and effort. I can only hope more people wake up and unionize! As there have been victories here that should blaze a path.
It’s “funny” how this was a complete non-issue here in France, but when the American right made trans people their next target after their abortion win, it suddenly became a huge problem for the French right as well.
These people constantly complain about American cultural hegemony, but they still make an exception for Trump and this kind of shit. Out of all the cool things coming out of the US, this is what you tolerate? I’m so sick of these spiteful assholes…
As if liberals and socialists haven’t tossed everything else aside to try and be as ‘good’ as possible by the standards of the american left/liberals twitter brigade
i don’t think it’s so much americans as it is the rise of the european populist far right seizing upon a vulnerable minority to get into power.
yes they share a lot of the same funding, but you shouldn’t ignore europe’s role in this
Yeah the Hapsburgs have funded American transphobia
HapsburgsKremlin and Christians
but when the American right made trans people their next target after their abortion win
WTF? When were trans people not the target of the american right?
Sure, but from where I am it sure seems like they became the main target. Anti-trans rethoric picked up a lot in the last few months.
So much this. Our rightwing is hellbent on importing every single moral panic from the US to detract from their blunders and authoritarianism.
