I liked the song. It’s really nice actually.
No one thinks this is…a little suspicious? Just when they’re catching flack from the left, the first NB winner! Feels very, very much like pacification to me. “Try protesting us now!” type of shit.
at last the trans agenda is revealed: to win a reasonably obscure pop music competition that barely, if at all, affects the pop music charts.
These .world comments are fucking wild. Really telling that the are the same people desperately trying to convince the LBGT vote while posting bigotry in the next breath.
this dude’s actually from lemm.ee, an instance used only by terrible people.
I like to think I’m alright
Any instance that allows me on it must be evil.
Im sorry but reasonably obscure? I think its complete trash and dont understand why people seem to love it so much but its huge.
7 million viewers across 25 countries isn’t that big. On average 300k per country.
its complete trash and dont understand why people seem to love it so much but its huge.
back when we stil cared, the fact that it was complete trash was why we loved it.
We looked forward to a bunch of people wearing tinfoil suits performing the most eurodance song you could imagine.
Or polish women pointlessly churning butter on stage in an oversexualized fashion.
Or one of the most epic sax performances.
Or just Lordi being LordiParticularly, because the ESC was always commented by a radio moderator named Peter Urban who would make the snarkiest remarks about any perfomers. No one I know cares about the “serious” performances.
Do you know how the competition works?
Yes, the public votes for one thing, and the “professional” jury selects someone entirely different -Switzerland came fifth, but won.
Yeah you don’t know how the voting works, do you?
Did Switzerland win because it was the best song or due to positive discrimination?
Does Conchita not count as non binary?
per Wikipedia Conchita identifies as a gay man. Although they may enjoy dressing as and presenting as a woman, inside Conchita identifies as male regardless of hobbies.
As a NB person I can assure you it’s not the same for me. When i’m wearing a skirt I don’t feel like a male in a skirt, I feel like the female parts of me are being allowed to be free a bit and it feels absolutely amazing! I don’t get enough feminine gender affirmation and I crave it tbh.
My own situation is confounded by external factors but i’m definitely not a man or a woman but an amalgam of both, inside.
Idk who that is but based on a quick google it’s just looks like a drag queen?
Maybe I’m ignorant, but by definition that seems non binary to me. Unless “non binary” no longer means non binary, and now it has some new trendy definition.
I’m not following. Drag, basically by definition, requires a binary. That’s the entire point of drag
Isn’t the idea of binary having two socially defined entities: man, woman. Having someone who defies either definition is non binary. Opposing the idea that you can only be one or the other.
Conchita dresses half way between man and woman. Dresses, skirts, long hair, make up, beard. Even the name Conchita Wurst is a wordplay for “vagina penis”.
The example of a male presenting as female or somewhere between those two seems within the exact definition of non binary.
Non binary means violating the binary. Drag is predicated on a binary existing. It plays with the idea of the binary. The point of drag is poking fun at the opposite gender. The opposite only exists because of the binary.
A trans person isn’t non-binary either. More importantly, a drag queen isn’t an identity. It’s someone who dresses like a woman as a joke. Conchita is a character, not the same as the person. If I get on stage and play Othello, am I now Othello? No, I played the character. That’s not me.
I’m afraid I don’t understand what violating the binary means, and it still seems to me that presenting female with a beard does not fit what I thought the binary of gender was supposed to mean.
I think you cannot conflate the notion of binary existing with the personal identification as fitting into one of them or not fitting into them.
Like being gay doesn’t require to reject the notion of straight people existing. And as for violating the binary, feminine makeup and dresses with a long beard is a quite strong violation of those binary notions. Just having an androgynous look does not. There is plenty of “buff” women who fully identify as women just as there is very “feminine” men that fully identify as men.
That’s not what non binary means. A drag queen is someone who cross dresses for performative reasons and identifies as a woman during such performances. A transgender person is someone who transitioned from one gender assigned at birth to the other. Non binary means they don’t feel like they fit perfectly in neither man nor women, but something in between, or even something variable.
Trans people can be non binary because NB is also a spectrum.
So being non binary is more of a feeling than a state?
I don’t understand the question. You are what you feel, that’s what gender is, or rather how you perceive it. It seems like you’re implying that what you feel isn’t real, but correct me if I’m wrong. I am cis man because I was assigned male at birth and I feel like I’m a man.
I’m not trying to imply anything. I’ve just never had a feeling about my gender so I don’t really understand the concept. I was born a man, I present as a man, but I can’t say that I feel like a man, I just feel like me.
And just to clear this up, trans people can also be binary. Clarification necessary become some think that transgender is non-binary or transgender is “third gender”. Both are wrong.
Jesus fucking Christ what’s with those gums? And the face rhinestones? This person is fucking weird.
