• GreenM@lemmy.world
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    Me personally, I didn’t mind ads back in the day when they weren’t so annoying. But somehow YouTube + content creators made ads so annoying at some point that I started to use ad blocker and sponsor skipper.

    My theory is that by becoming so aggressive with ads , YouTube income / video actuallly decreased due to people getting fed up with ads and getting ad blockers. Now they go even more aggressive so people will start to look for alternatives.

    It’ll be interesting to see following development.

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      That’s when my family asked me to set up adblockers.

      It used to be a single 30 second ad but skippable.

      It’s now 2 ads skippable, then ads randomly injected into a video. A ten min video can have twelve ads. Defenders say “Oh the content maker sets those features.”

      Of which I say, “Bet. Gonna block them, find a new revenue stream because the next stage is pirating your shit.”

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        Also i love how people act as if Ads aren’t brainwashing bullshit lies. Marketing only exists to make you click buy, they don’t care about any other effect. Misinformation? Who cares, unhealthy habits? All good. Oh my goodness your blocking lies? Sooo unethical

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        Yep, without the need of a Google acc. No shitty ads, more functionality, and they’re typically more customizable :p

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      +to that. However I haven’t found proper alternative yet.

      • I got so used that dump algorithm that at least 40% of times recommends what I’m actually interested at, that it feels so hard to go back to watch unordered vids
      • Newer content is still lacking on alternatives. Like coding tutorials or documentaries etc.
      • On the other hand I found many old forgotten internet classics on these alternative sites like old ads and funny clips that we used to watch at 240p back in the day.
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        Point one hits home. It’s nice that I can look through my feed but I also want to find new stuff and piped is not giving me that. I still use it in case my yt account gets banned lol

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      Hey, remember when you could see more than a single line of text of an article on mobile? Me neither.

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        Yeah, just a second ago. Probably, something to do with Firefox. Anyway, articles these days are becoming superficial. What could be said in a few words takes an entire paragraph for some reason. Writer’s skills are on a downward trend recently. Not liking it

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          Yeah you have to make it longer…can’t place 15 ads on a text with one paragraph

          I especially love the cases where I want to check if and when series xy continues “get the Release Date of Series XY season 5” And then there is a wall of text that summarizes season 1-4 and how everybody is waiting for season 5 to then say that the date is not out yet…

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    I saw this, hit the X to close that pop-up and continued on as usual. Just me?

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    I’ll be that guy and say this isn’t crappy design and shouldn’t be in this community. We’ve already got posts filling top of all we don’t need more where they don’t belong.

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      I would argue that pop-ups like this are an intentionally crappy design meant to be frustrating and get in the way. But, I understand what your saying, this is perhaps not the best suited community for this post.

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        I think the difference here is I view “crappy design” as something badly made or poorly executed. What you describe I would consider to be “asshole design”: perfectly well-made, but with bad intentions. I can see why you would have the different definition though, and considering the Reddit subs had a lot of these same definition issues it’s not surprising they continue here.

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    I’m somewhat surprised it took so long after they took over YouTube.

    Might cause some surprising competition hopefully

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    Everyone needs to sign out on desktop if you’re using Ublock origin bypass. This whole TOS thing could be grounds to start going after your account they don’t achieve the outcome they’re looking for

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    I use Firefox and have uBlock Origin installed. I block ALL cookies from YouTube and Google and other Google sites. I am not signed into any Google properties and I have not seen an ad for over 10+years. I never use an app or mobile and use only a desktop on Linux.
    Google will not win over products like uBlock Origin because, it’s NOT an ad blocker, it’s an element blocker. It allows the user to remove annoyances, and that sometimes includes ads.
    The only way Google will get to force ads on people is if they REQUIRE you to sign in to it’s services and force cookies on you. It will have to be a walled garden. Meta, Xitter, bluesky, reddit, will all eventually go to the walled garden because they are greedy. Users will leave and the Fediverse will grow.
    People are fed up with ads and all the “improvements” that sites like YouTube make. Ambient mode, auto play, end cards, notations, all unnecessary. And we block it with element blockers.

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      I don’t think the Fediverse can really provide an alternative to YouTube. The infrastructure required for the amount of data constantly being served and processed is prohibitly expensive.

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        Maybe not today, and never at the scale that YouTube is right now (that’s not a bad thing), but never say never.
        5 years ago no one saw a psychopath buying and actively destroying Xitter.
        Technology changes quickly. It won’t be long until 10TB HDDs are standard fare, 8G is everywhere, electric cars are 40% of the market etc.
        Anything is a possibility and humans get smarter and more innovative. I know this because humans can carry a small computer in their pockets.

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          All it takes is 1 developer to add video support to lemmy, and make videos defederalized, then we could have different videos in different communities, we could have video-only communities, and those would be youtube-like.

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            I don’t think code is the main problem here, it is the money to invest in the server space and bandwidth for it.

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        Are you saying that it costs a lot of money to setup a video streaming service that stores terrabytes of data? From what I hear that should all just be free!

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          Bluesky is slowly gaining more users after multiple Xitter announcements. Xitter is going to be Netflix of social media.

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        I don’t need to watch videos when I’m not home. And I prefer a real screen.

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          I was thinking more about the fact you’ve not seen an advert for 10 years.

          They’re on every site these days not just videos. Perhaps you just meant video ads.

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    If they manage to kill ReVanced I’m done with YouTube. I’ll subscribe to Nebula or something.

    • PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S [he/him]@lemmy.sdf.org
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      Use Invidious! No ads, no username required, no reporting to YouTube, Sponsorblock can be used, and you still get unlimited access to YouTube’s content. There are dozens of instances, but inv.tux pizza usually works for me.

      I know that Nebula has exclusive infotainment, but sometimes I just want to watch people be bad at video games.

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        I feel like this might be blasphemous around here, but I actually like being logged in and getting tailored algorithmic suggestions on YouTube. Unlike most people it seems to know my interests pretty well.

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          Same. I really like my newpipe, but the sheer amount of unfiltered fuckface influencer bullshit videos ‘currently trending’ on it’s frontpage is more disgusting than any algorithmic youtube bubble will ever be.

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            These frontends need to introduce a preferred-startpage feature that enables setting Subscriptions as the default. I’d be interested to know from others if there’s any technical hurdle, because I’m surprised it’s not already available.

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    You know what annoys me the most about this?
    I looked up the price of Premium. It’s not great but not too bad either. I hate subscription services so I thought “I’ll just buy the annual plan”
    Google doesn’t offer the Family Annual plan in my region. Only Individual Annual.
    Fucks sake Google! If I’m trying to give you money, the least you could have done is make it easy!