• anticolonialist@lemmy.world
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      6 months ago

      Don’t you know Trump is gonna genocide harder? Some shitlib told me yesterday trump will conduct a real genocide, as if the one happening in front of our eyes is fake

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          6 months ago

          Yeah, but with Biden and the Democrat Party you get an equal opportunity Genocide were women are just a likely to be murdered as men and LGBT as straight people.

          So Vote Biden!!!

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        6 months ago

        If you’re going to define your movement as anti-genocidal you should really have a firm grasp on what genocide is and who is committing it:

        Article II of the Convention defines genocide as:
        … any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

        • (a) Killing members of the group;
        • (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
        • © Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
        • (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
        • (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

        Hamas, what Israel has been clear they intend to destroy, is not a national, ethnical, racial or religious group. However, Jews/Israel/Israelis, what Hamas has been clear they intend to destroy, are. Therefore, legally Oct 7 was an act of genocide, and Israel’s war on Hamas is not. Such a designation has nothing to do with body count.

        I support Israel because I oppose the genocidal. Binding their hands and preventing them from retaliating in self-defense only serves to support genocidal Hamas by keeping them in power.

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          6 months ago

          You support Israel because you oppose the genocidal.This is one of the most batshit insane things i have read on this site,you really cannot have typed that with a straight face.

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            6 months ago

            Sorry to invade your echo chamber with dissent. It must pain you to be reminded that not everyone agrees with you, that must be so hard for you.

            an occupying nation like Israel can not claim self defense when attacked

            Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005. A blockade is not an occupation.

        • The Uncanny Observer@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          6 months ago

          Anytime somebody starts quibbling over whether something is technically genocide, they’re an immoral person and nothing they say is of any worth to the human species. I didn’t get past the first sentence you wrote before I clicked away.

      • AIhasUse@lemmy.world
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        6 months ago

        Are you talking about the Trump that won’t quit talking about how antisemitic Biden has been in the Gaza genocide?

        https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/09/us/politics/trump-biden-jews.html

        Imagine seeing someone yell at a rapist in the middle of raping that they aren’t raping viciously enough and then thinking that it would be good to send that guy in there instead. I agree, no rape would be best, but I’m pretty sure the victim in this case would prefer the current rapist over the one complaining about how the current rapist is being offensively gentle.

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          6 months ago

          I’m talking about the people that passed a resolution proclaiming opposition to Zionism is antisemitic. I’m talking about the people using police across the country to silence opposition to Zionism and genocide. I’m talking about the people that’s taken millions of AIPAC money to carry out the demands of Zionists.

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            6 months ago

            I was referring to the part of your comment where you said “Trump.” You’re gonna have to use gpt to explain my comment to you in a way that you are able to wrap your head around. Just tell it to break it down step by step and explain it to like you’re a 5 year old with their fingers in their ears yelling “blah blah blah, i can’t heeeaaaar youuuuu”.

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              6 months ago

              In typical fashion, a liberal infantilizes people they disagree with because they have no other argument to stand on

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                6 months ago

                You talked about Trump.

                I responded that your take on Trump made no sense.

                You oddly tried to pretend you were not talking about Trump.

                I pointed out that you were talking about Trump.

                I have made my point clearly. I’m sorry if making it so clear hurt your feelings, but the choice is between speaking on a low level or having things go over your head like they did. This is a you issue. If you don’t want people to speak down to you, then demonstrate some reading comprehension.

                Also, I’m not liberal, I’m politically non-binary.

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          6 months ago

          Beyond your disgusting analogy, if you think Palestinians give a shit who sends the bombs to Israel that are going to kill them you’re not living in reality.

          Tell me you’re voting for Biden on domestic policy grounds, and I’ll agree with you because that’s my plan, but stop dressing this up as anything that’s not as bad as it could be

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            6 months ago

            Do you realize that if today the casualties on both sides of Gaza and isreal since October happened again, and then every day that many more is added, let’s say 40,000 per day. If we continue doing that every single day, we wouldn’t reach the world war 2 casualties until 2027. So yes, things can, and have very recently been much worse.

            Biden is a bastard, he is blowing up gazan children daily, and I hope the universe makes a special exception for him and creates a biblical hell. Trump calls this “level of restraint” antisemitic. Trump is in extreme debt, angry as hell, and he has a bunch of racist anti-muslim fanatics he’s trying to please. He can absolutely make things worse.

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                6 months ago

                Are you seriously a Trump supporter because you think the conservatives will be kinder to a group of minority Muslims that are up against Jewish Israel? Is this the first time you’ve ever paid attention to American politics?

                Look up what a president by the name of George Bush Jr. did to the Middle East, you’re about to have your political views dumped completely upside-down. The Republicans are not nearly as buddy-buddy with Islamic minorities as you’ve somehow been lead to believe.

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                6 months ago

                Worse genocide. That is worse than genocide. Have they seriously got you thinking that there are no gazans left of something? It is mind-boggling how good some media companies are at doing what they do.