“The purpose is not solely religious,” Sen. Jay Morris, R-West Monroe, told the Senate. Rather, it is the Ten Commandments’ "historical significance, which is simply one of many documents that display the history of our country and foundation of our legal system.”
Only two of them are actually law: Thou shalt not murder and thou shalt not steal.
This is all about religion, and they’re going to get away with it. We’d be better off if our legal codes were based on the seven tenets instead.
Not even two, maybe one and a half as it depends a lot on who you are and whom you’re stealing from. And you can even argue on murder too
https://www.evilbible.com/evil-bible-home-page/murder-in-the-bible/
If I linked 1/3rd of the list of times the Bible condones murder it would be removed as spam.
America! Land of the free*!
*: Unless you meant freedom of religion. You better not! We’ll sue/burn/shoot/jesus you if you do! Ultraconservative Christianity or death!
*unless you also meant freedom of expression or freedom of bodily autonomy
Wait, what’s getting jesus’d…?
Oh, I did not think of the implications of making that a verb.
we make exceptions for even the murdering and stealing.
All the time, and especially for cops. (It’s called ‘qualified immunity’ and ‘civil forfeiture’ instead of murdering and stealing, but it’s the same thing.)
Religious people just love indoctrinating children. It’s their whole thing. Get them while they’re young and dumb and won’t realize it’s all just make believe bullshit.
It makes me so angry because children are vulnerable and trusting; exploiting that to get them to believe in nonsense is evil.
But when I try to indoctrinate children I just get burned at the stake
Shitty people love indoctrinating children.
Religion, much like many idealogical groups, gives an easy place for assholes to find confirmation of their own shit ideas, and a shield of “righteousness” and “I’m doing it for their own good” to hide behind lest the dying gasps of their withered conscience interrupt them.
There’s plenty of secular belief systems along these lines as well. Many racist groups like skinheads, neonazis, and the KKK spread through indoctrination of children (parents passing beliefs to children) and appeals to young people as “the solution” for the confusion and isolation they feel growing up.
I’m Christian, I feel that the ten commandments are some of the best secular life advice the bible has to offer, and this mess is complete and utter unmitigated bullshit.
No if ands or buts, whoever was involved in this clown show of a law deserves to be instantly stripped of any governmental or education system titles or powers and banned from holding any position of power for life.
Any religion, belief system, or idealogical concept worth anything should be capable of standing up on it’s own.
Did I misunderstand what “separation of church and state” meant?
Depends. Are you a Louisiana Republican legislator?
Based on this ruling, I don’t think I’m qualified.
Laws are only useful if successfully upheld in court. For some reason these never get challenged enough. Strange.
The Satanic Temple has entered the chat
violating the constitution by establishment of a religion
States can establish religions. Federal government can’t.
Edit: Forgot that federal government can indoctrinate religion just fine: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_God_We_Trust
States can establish religions. Federal government can’t.
Over the last 150 years, the Supreme Court has pretty consistently found that the Bill of Rights applies to state as well as federal government: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incorporation_of_the_Bill_of_Rights
See especially https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everson_v._Board_of_Education:
Everson v. Board of Education … was a landmark decision of the United States Supreme Court that applied the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment to state law.
Mandatory “one nation under god” pledge in school classes disagrees that religion cannot be established.
Its also said “with liberty and justice for all” during a time where people kept literal slaves, without a hint of irony.
The wording far too inconsistent and vague to be taken as literally as you’re attempting to take them.
That’s not how it works. State law can’t supersede federal law.
State law can’t supersede federal law.
And Congress cannot pass laws on that. Constitution says so.
That is an extremely narrow view of the First Amendment that goes against over two centuries of judicial precedent. Only a Clarence Thomas-level originalist would make such an argument.
That is an extremely narrow view of the First Amendment that goes against over two centuries of judicial precedent.
Mandatory “one nation under god” pledge in school classes proves that establishing religion in the US is fine.
Those are literally not mandatory.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Virginia_State_Board_of_Education_v._Barnette
Those are literally not mandatory.
Except when they are: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pledge_of_Allegiance#Legal_challenges
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“the Pledge of Allegiance does not violate the rights of those who don’t believe in God and does not have to be removed from the patriotic message”
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“As a matter of historical tradition, the words ‘under God’ can no more be expunged from the national consciousness than the words ‘In God We Trust’ from every coin in the land, than the words ‘so help me God’ from every presidential oath since 1789, or than the prayer that has opened every congressional session of legislative business since 1787.”
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Not if the 14th amendment has anything to say about it. The incorporation doctrine of the 14th amendment applies the first 10 amendments to the state level as well.
Wtf is going on with you on the other side of the pond there?
Ignorance, propaganda and christofascism
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No problem! We’ve got options!
-Fontsize = 3
-Hang them with text against wall
-Hang them on the ceiling
-Type them in Chinese/foreign language/braille
-Bright yellow text on white paper
-Printed with bad cartridge
-Font: wingdings
Few years ago Texas required ‘In God we Trust’ signs to be displayed in classrooms. Schools weren’t allowed to pay for them, so basically donated. They conveniently rejected the signs that had a rainbow on it, or the one written in Arabic.
https://www.npr.org/2022/08/31/1120239381/texas-in-god-we-trust-arabic-signs-chaz-stevens
Get the commandments from the wicked bible
Behold, the LORD our God hath shewed us his glory and his great-asse
Write the 10 commandments on a doll and hang it in the classroom 1800s style
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Arabic
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Name and shame the religious extremist who passed this and ban them from office
Ask them how they’d feel about requiring children to wear hijabs and all of the sudden they’ll understand how everyone feels about their fascist laws lol
Nah, they’ll just think Christians good, Muslim bad
The woman who pushed for this said she didn’t care about Atheists or Muslims.
sherman we need you now more than ever.
i fucking hate the south
Let’s see if the don’t kill command deters school shootings.
I thought the old testament was supposed to be irrelevant/null and void after Jeebus and the new new testament.
But actually following Jesus’ teaching would be way too progressive. As far as I remember he was basically a hippie, advocating for love, helping each other out and the poor, and strongly against hate and capitalism. And he didn’t quite like the old traditions. So I think as a christian as of today you definitely need some counterbalance and some other book to point at to defend your conservatism, egoistcal behaviour and hate towards people who aren’t 100% like yourself.
That only applies to the Old Testament passages that forbid usury, of course.
I went through 18 years of being forced to go to church and never learned the word.
Methinks that was purposeful.
Jesus: I came not to enforce the law, but to fulfill it.
Paul: Well, what he AKSTUALLY meant is blah blah ceremonial law vs moral law blah blah sex is yucky, I mean sinful!
I mean, it’s more complex than that, but Paul wrote like he understood the necessity of reproduction, but didn’t really comprehend what sexual urges actually feel like. He also wrote such long rambling sentences that he makes Charles Dickens look concise and clear.
Sounds like a cult based on fear and confusion
Matthew was just trying to repair the damage to James, very likely.
Paul: OT is gone except the parts I like
James: OT is still there even oral parts drifting around it.
A huge difference in how the religion should be practiced.
Now if you were a writer 5 decades later and needed to redeem the image of James, while still showing that he was wrong, this could be a good way to do it. It wasn’t that James was super wrong, he just misunderstood something Jesus said at one point. Could happen to anyone.
To be fair Louisiana can’t do much more than alternate between crying and sticking its head in the sand. Unfortunately it is the state where a whole lot of oil refineries and disgusting chemical plants have set up shop and that has just locked the state into a death spiral politically. Louisiana is absolutely FUCKED though from climate change and I think you have to see the batshit crazy behavior of people there from that context. Climate Change is going to demolish the lives of people who live in Louisiana (actually by the numbers it is going to somehow be FAR worse than Florida) and no matter how much denial you are in about Climate Change the fear will keep seeping into these people’s psyches no matter what, like rising flood waters slipping between the cracks of buildings…
It is useless to try to understand why the ideological contagions of religious fundamentalism and conservatism are so widespread in Louisiana outside the context of the state being a trashcan for the entire US oil and chemical industrial complex. This kind of suffering, ideological dissonance with basic aspects of reality and obsession with issues that are massive distractions from unfolding mass scale health catastrophes (like healthcare being an utterly failed system in the US or rent being completely unaffordable) are a fundamental requirement for petroleum and chemical companies to maintain their incredibly destructive existence, otherwise they would be shut down almost immediately by angry masses of citizens.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petroleum_refining_in_the_United_States
Inbred degenerates.
Does it say which ten commandments?
Goodbye secularism, goodbye constitution and whoever still likes what’s been the original idea behind the foundation of the United States of America.
