• febra@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    So Israel is just being a pariah of the world as usual. Nothing new.

    As of now Slovenia, Spain, Norway, Ireland, Malta, Trinidad and Tobago have announced they will soon start recognizing the state of Palestine. That brings the number of countries that recognize the state of Palestine to around 150 countries out of 193 countries in the UN.

    Not only that but around four fifths of the world population lives in these countries. So an overwhelming majority both in the UN and on a population scale recognize them.

    With that being said, let’s go Israel. Be more of a pariah than you already are. Close yourself off from all these countries. Shoot yourself in the foot.

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    4 months ago

    Israel’s foreign minister Israel Katz said in a public statement that the move to recognize Palestine was a “distorted step” by the countries

    Israel’s National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir also condemned the move Wednesday and said the response from Israel would be to intensify its operations in Gaza—where the ICC chief prosecutor this week alleged war crimes by Israeli forces have taken place—even further. In his remarks, Ben-Gvir called for a “root treatment” for the city of Rafah, where hundreds of thousands of civilians have fled but many still remain with nowhere go.

    That old right-wing refrain: “Look what you made me do!”

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    4 months ago

    “Why yes, we have every intention of starting and starring in World War 3 featuring the USA as our fellow baddies, thanks for asking!”

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      The very moment the U.S. outright enters war on behalf of Israel, is the moment a real insurrection should occur in D.C.

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        4 months ago

        I agree, but unfortunately believe if anyone takes up arms on the side of Palestine, we’re going to drop troops the next day.

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    Does Bibi actually think he can go toe-to-toe militarily if he dares to step out from behind the protection of his iron dome?

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      The Samson Option?

      We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets for our air force. Let me quote General Moshe Dayan: ‘Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother.’ I consider it all hopeless at this point. We shall have to try to prevent things from coming to that, if at all possible. Our armed forces, however, are not the thirtieth strongest in the world, but rather the second or third. We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under.

      Or maybe you prefer:

      What would serve the Jew-hating world better in repayment for thousands of years of massacres but a Nuclear Winter. Or invite all those tut-tutting European statesmen and peace activists to join us in the ovens? For the first time in history, a people facing extermination while the world either cackles or looks away—unlike the Armenians, Tibetans, World War II European Jews or Rwandans—have the power to destroy the world. The ultimate justice?

      • Metal Martin@lemmy.myserv.one
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        Yeah, I know about all that. It’s a bullshit-ass plan cause that few devices aren’t enough to destroy the world. Israel then dies and life goes on.

    • Crack0n7uesday@lemmy.world
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      Israel and Palestine have been fighting for a long time, since before you were born probably. I’m not on either side but I don’t see either side getting wiped out anytime soon.

      • Metal Martin@lemmy.myserv.one
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        The Palestinians are being pushed out or killed. Call it what you will. This isn’t a political issue. It’s seen by most of the world as unacceptable on a human level. There’s no coming back as a viable State for Israel. Gonna be a nasty mess unfortunately.

      • Squizzy@lemmy.world
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        Lol spineless whores, just throw a dollar on the ground and whichever shit heel running that superpower will be on their knees chasing it.

        Fuck the genocide backing yanks.

      • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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        the worlds only super power

        Is the US even really worth of that term anymore? Seems like we’ve lost quite a bit of gas since the 90s.

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          Definitely true, its just the arms companies milking your country dry want more money. So, they’ll convince you all that you’re no longer a super power.

    • diffusive@lemmy.world
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      4 months ago

      Wait! Vatican recognized Palestine?!?

      Either way if what Spain said is true and Europe becomes green as well, it would be pretty much US, Australia and Israel to not recognize Palestine

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            4 months ago

            Foreign policy needs consensus. So the EU can not force Germany to do anything in terms of foreign policy.

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              Germany depends on the votes of Spain and Ireland at the EU for a lot of things that Germany finds important.

              If a measure at the EU level has enough consensus and Germany vetoes it, they’ll see other members be a lot more likelly to use veto power on things that mostly matter for Germany.

              Since Germany are in the curious position of being the EU member that benefits the most from the Free Market (they’re the biggest exporter and their biggest market by far is the rest of the EU) and the Euro (their currency now is a lot weaker and hence they’re more competitive because it’s a currency union with far weaker countries, than it was back in the deutsche mark times), they can’t even threathen to leave the EU as that would a bit like threatenning almost everybody else with a good time whilst they shot themselves on both feet.

              Still, the most likely outcome is going to be nothing at all getting done at EU level, either way, if only because that’s always the most likely outcome.

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                If only Germany would not be willing to recognice Palestine, then this might happen, but that is not the case. France and Italy the two next most powerfull countries do not recognice Palestine either.

                Germany is usually fairly happy with the current state of the EU. The things Germany wants to change are usually also supported by Spain and that means blackmail is harder. The only exaption to that is finance. However Spain is not going to let billions go to waste to have Palestine recogniced. That is just more of a symbol, rather then massivly important.

                Also Germany leaving the EU would cause some massive problems in other EU countries as well. They would hardly be cheering for it.

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                  It’s unclear were exactly France is on this, though I agree that Italy under the current far-right government is unlikelly to recognize Palestine.

                  I’m mostly thinking about the Financial stuff: none of the so called PIIGS forgot how they and their populations were sacrificed to save German banks and a “Let’s fuck Germany” posture wouldn’t at all be a hard sell in those countries plus I very much doubt that generally not doing what’s good for Germany would be bad for those countries since they’re almost opposite to Germany in the forms by which their economies can benefit from the Euro - they would actually grow more in an Euro without Germany.

                  I’m also not so sure that a German exit would end up being bad for the rest of the EU, especially for the less export oriented and more peripheral countries like Spain - certainly an Euro minus Germany would actually be better for everybody else but Germany (as Germany pushes up the value of the Euro, making other Euro nations less competitive and partly explaining their anemic growth and lack of funds to restructure their Economies, which is the other big reason for their anemic growth) though granted it depends on how important are exports to Germany in each economy, though on non-Euro EU matters you might be right. In summary and as I said before, almost nobody else but Germany benefits from Germany’s Euro membership and the kind of nations that would be least affected by a Deutschexit are the ones who have no borders with Germany, a group that includes Spain, Ireland and Norway (though the latter is not an EU member and hence has no vote or veto so doesn’t really apply for the scenario we are discussing).

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        Obligatory note for all the “Christians should support Israel” crowd. The Israeli minister of Security said, that Christians should be spit on. When Christians want to pray for Easter in the Church of the holy sepulcher, Israeli security forces are also harassing and attacking them. Israel is not only an ethnostate, it is also founded on religious and race supremacy, where white european/american Jews are on the top of the hierarchy and anyone else will face discrimination.

  • ZMoney@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    I love this. “Israel invades Norway” would be such a great news story to follow.

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    Israel: SPAIN! WE WILL FORBID YOU FROM GRANTING EMBASSY SERVICES TO THE REMAINING PALESTINIANS IN THE WEST BANK!

    Spain: Erhm, ok … Doesn’t that affect Palestinians more than our-?

    Israel: SILENCE! WE HAVE SPOKEN!

    Totally not an apartheid state.

  • bill_buttlicker@lemmy.world
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    “Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir also condemned the move Wednesday and said **the response from Israel would be to intensify its operations in Gaza.” **

    That’s right! We’re gonna genocide harder! That’ll show em whose right!