Remember when the war was supposed to end when all the hostages were released?

I wonder what all the people who told me that the objective of this war was to free the hostages are going to tell me now?

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    1 month ago

    because when that law is broken, it turns civilians into targets

    Have you absolutely no shame? Or are you naïvely trying to sound authoritative? Unlawful combatants existing in an area, does not mean that civilians are greenlight for deliberate targeting.

    Nor does it excuse the atrocious and callous 1:10,1:20,1:100 ‘acceptable collateral damage’ Hamas:Civilian ratio the IDF has self assigned and modified up and down based on international outcry.

    for every junior Hamas operative that Lavender marked, it was permissible to kill up to 15 or 20 civilians… in the event that the target was a senior Hamas official with the rank of battalion or brigade commander, the army on several occasions authorized the killing of more than 100 civilians in the assassination of a single commander

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      1 month ago

      I’m talking about what actually happens, not what is “right” or “allowable”. In a warzone, if your enemy looks like civilians, then civilians start looking like the enemy. That’s the reason why not wearing uniforms became a war crime in the first place. It drives up civilian casualties.

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        1 month ago

        Cop - But he looked like the perp!

        Citizen - How?

        Cop - His skin was darker than mine.

        Same goes for soldiers killing for nationalistic purposes.

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          1 month ago

          Yes, because in a war, you totally have plenty of time to stop and do a thorough investigation into which one of the five guys within sight just shot at you. Everyone will just pause everything while you figure out who you are supposed to shoot back at.

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            1 month ago

            Isreal’s not exactly shooting at folks “within sight” who “just shot at you”. They’re bombing people from a very comfortable distance.

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              1 month ago

              It was a metaphor to continue a conversation about why having your combatants looking like and mixed in with the civilian population is bad. We’re talking in the abstract, not literal. Keep up.

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            1 month ago

            Or maybe, here’s a thought: You stop reacting capriciously, and asses the situation to make an informed decision for shoot/no-shoot. Retreat to safety and investigate. Israel likes to flout their ‘world class’ ISR and HUMINT capabilities and superior and accurate weapons, but then keeps making “tragic mistakes” that kill civilians, reporters, and aid workers. Hamas et al are definitely not respecting the laws of war, but that’s not license to turn neighborhoods into free-fire zones.

            Of course that requires the forces involved respecting civilian life and showing restraint.