• Echo Dot@feddit.uk
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      Yeah they pulled themselves up by their bootstraps, with nothing more then a couple of million from their parents.

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        It’s not fair but it’s the only way. Stewardship is hard. Business is hard and risky. People often fail to recognize the risky nature.

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          I have no problem with people making money. Why would I have a problem with people making money if they’re successful?

          These people are not successful because of their talent, they are successful because they have money. Success breeds success and riches breed more riches. If they do well enough they can stick everything in a high interest saver account and live off the interest.

          So it’s a bit rich when they claim to be some big shot and to lecture everyone else on their secret magic talent, which is usually nothing else other than they were lucky with their birthright.

          See Donald Trump is a classic example of this. The man couldn’t think his out way out a wet paper bag, and yet he’s fabulously wealthy even if he’s lying about 90% of his income he still has more money than most people would know what to do with. Everything he is is because of his father, all of his success has been despite his personal “accomplishments” not because of them.

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        Stewardship is hard to learn. Most people won’t have the discipline not would they take the risks. I studied business.

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          Those people would be NOTHING if not for all other workers. It’s a team game and the entire team should be rewarded and treated with respect. I’m not saying we should pay every job the same wage, I’m saying that all of the money shouldn’t flow to the few select people while the rest gets scrumbles.

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        Well, almost nothing would be. Yours is a NONargument because it completely kills the discourse. But that’s beside the point. Some billionares do work hard because they happened across a smart idea and they were able to make it flourish.

        Not saying that Bezos in 2023 deserves all the money he has because I dislike Amazon, but you still can’t deny that it was an idea that changed in just a decade the entire way a society thinks about shopping.

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          Why is an overwhelming, correct argument that ends the discourse a bad thing if you already admit it’s correct?

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          So because he had an idea and workers realized that idea for him and those workers make that idea be maintained for him makes it fine for them to be exploited? Also I doubt that those people at the top manage shit, they just have another workers manage this stuff for them.

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            That’s just dingeneous and completely disregarding how things actually work. Did he clean the bathrooms? Of course not. But he did coordinate his team of workers by creating other teams of worker where at the end there were people who coded and shipped everything. If you think that would be easy to do you have a rude awakening waiting for you lmao.

            I mean to say, that it is probably the hardest or among the hardest roles.

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              Following this logic you don’t work very hard.

              The one who works hard is the worker you depend on. That worker can go work elsewhere, but you need him. Pay him his worth, because he’s literally the support pillar. I’m sure you know what happens when there’s no support pillar.

              It’s not because you tell people what to do that you work harder. Those people could have done it themselves, but they didn’t have the money to start something as big as amazon. It’s all about how much money you have to invest, not hard work.

              Some billionares do work hard because they happened across a smart idea and they were able to make it flourish.

              Smart ideas with money to invest = hard worker

              Smart ideas but poor = ???

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                Yeah plus even if they don’t have the ideas working in a warehouse moving stuff is harder than talking and arranging things with people

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                  i’d take a life of “how am i gonna spend this money wisely” over a life of “how am i gonna make it this month”