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one can only hope!
No Microsoft is not doing that. They are trying to be in front of the curve. If they succeed to integrate ai into the os and be the first, they will win.
Lol
That they want to commit suicide is more plausible?
I was laughing at the idea that this is cutting edge and their intentions are to break new ground. Vs what it is: a brazen attempt to invade the fuck out of privacy for monetary gain
This is objectively cutting edge as this is in development and no less than of a field in which the most money and effort is put right now. Really the definition of cutting edge. Their inventions will also objectively and very obviously break new ground as there is no os that would have ai so integrated. There is no privacy invasion, not sure what your are taking about as nothing would be shared with anyone.
I think you must be extremely confused. Except about the monetary gain, but I hope we don’t have to talk about why companies exist.
There is no privacy invasion, not sure what your are taking about as nothing would be shared with anyone.
This is based on the claim that MS has made that they won’t access the data (hilarious) and the assumption that no one is getting hacked.
You sound like a fanboy.
You are completely irrational. You can’t think straight. That’s why you think something is funny, but then 1.4 billion users will use it and like it and then you will like it too. It’s so childish.
I’m not a fanboy. I’ve been a hater for 30 years. And for 30 years I’ve been dreaming of an os that could understand what I want. One that would predict my actions, perhaps do them instead of me. It’s insane it took so much time.
And now, finally when we are getting closer, people like you, who have already shared everything on blogs, fb, twitter, ig, discord, and all the shitty services imaginable, are complaining that this is an invasion of privacy. Is just insane. It’s so insane that I acknowledged you enough to talk to you. Immediately when you will see the minimum practicality of this, you will use it and think nothing of how you wrote you laugh at me (although we both know what’s up, don’t we).
Anyway. Bye.
Great argument… if that’s what you call that.
A lot of people are leaving windows, and each new feature seems to add to that. I’ve been avoiding windows every chance I’ve had for about 25 years myself.
Stay mad.
The new Recall feature they’re trying to push is creepy as fuck. No thanks.
Glad I moved to linux a few years ago so I don’t have to worry about any of this trash.
Microsoft knows that the addition of adds to Windows, Recall, data mining, etc are not suicide. As far as tech news goes, Lemmy really exists in an echo chamber. The vast majority of us at least have some interest in technology. For the majority of the population, though, this isn’t true. The typical person sees a computer as a tool to be used for other things. They’re not reading articles about the latest release of Windows, new CPU technology, the latest GPU, etc. They’re using their computer, and when it’s time for an upgrade, they buy whatever suits their needs.
If I was to ask any of my family, or most of my coworkers, about any of the latest “controversies” surrounding Microsoft, they would have no idea what I was talking about. Microsoft obviously thinks that the added profits gained by monetizing their customers will offset the loss of 1% of their users that switch to Linux. They’re probably right, too.
I like Windows, personally (well, Windows 10 at least). My unofficial rule has always been if it needs a GUI, then it runs Windows, otherwise, it runs Linux as a headless machine. Once Windows 10 is no longer a viable option, my unofficial rule will be “it runs Linux.” Most people will not make this switch.
But you’re ignoring the entire enterprise side of things. MS Recall + pervasive data mining and ad injections are things that the vast majority of IT departments are going to refuse to sign off on. These technologies meaningfully and fundamentally undermine organizational and system security, up to and including potential inadvertent exposure of cryptographic secrets, which the modern internet is basically built on top of.
Sure, consumers are likely going to acquiesce out of either laziness or ignorance. But IT orgs aren’t going to simply sign off on this - particularly if they’re operating in an industry where InfoSec really matters (basically, any regulated industry like medical, biotech, or aerospace).
There is a huge corporate insensitive that everyone is not realizing here. By screen recording + OCR, there is a possibility to start using this data to replace some labor intensive, but simple tasks of operating a business. If you can create RPA+ML+LLM that can rerun repetitive tasks, you have holy grail on your hands. I think this is one of the big reason why M$ is pushing this.
I assume to be down voted to oblivion, but I do business automation and integration for living, and at the same time I am scared and excited.
I never thought I’d see one of Charlie’s blogs posted around Lemmy unless it was about his books. Good to see him getting some recognition.
I’ve seen this over and over in corporate environments.
Suit A has a terrible idea but enough fawning bootlickers to get the process moving.
Worker A, an employee, knows this is a terrible idea but doesn’t say anything because they wanna keep their job.
Contractor B, obv a contractor, is there to make money and hopefully turn their stint into something more, so they speak up. And get canned.
What is it about Suits that they can’t listen to literally anyone but their own echo chambers? Oh yeah, they’re angling to jump into a bigger echo chamber. The 1%.
I’m Worker A, and I speak up when I get asked to implement something terrible. Sometimes it works, but usually they don’t care. At least I don’t lose my job over it.
I can’t imagine working in a place where you have to be in fear of speaking the truth. I have never suffered negative consequences at any company I’ve worked at for pointing out why a terrible idea is terrible, but I’ve seen plenty of people who are afraid to speak up. It puzzles me.
I’ve thought this ever since Windows 8 (and when I went from dual-boot to Linux only). In retrospect, at least Ballmer treated Windows like a PC operating system.
Ever since Nadella took over, it seems like MS is trying to turn Windows into ChromeOS but for Microsoft’s cloud services. Pretty sure they want PCs to be thin clients tied to subscriptions. No fucking thanks.
Windows 8! Haha! Ahh, I’d call it the “New Coke” of Windows but that probably wouldn’t help anyone who wasn’t there.
You know it’s bad when ballmer seems to be the rational person
Oh, absolutely lol. Definitely one of those cases where you didn’t know what you had until it’s gone.
Microsoft has essentially forgotten what a desktop GUI is for. It’s a program launcher packaged with a set of libraries that make it easy for other programs to do complex things like displaying video in a uniform way, plus some system administration tools. Pack-ins not related to system administration should be limited to very basic software.
There may be something that Microsoft has added to Windows lately that isn’t bloat, or evil, or both, but damned if I know what it is.
They haven’t forgotten. They don’t care.
Microsoft wants to lock up business dollars while the AI feeding frenzy is still fresh.
They do not care about any other markets or segments, which is why their products are getting so bad so fast for literally everyone else.
Microsoft makes its money with Azure and M365 licenses for enterprise customers now.
Windows as a consumer operating system is a loss leader. The only reason it still exists is to breed familiarity with the MS ecosystem in all future employees.
This strategy works until a certain amount of really big businesses do the math and find out how many millions they can save each month by throwing their weight behind a Linux-based solution. Luckily for Microsoft, most CEOs and CTOs of these major corporations are forced by the shareholders to prioritize short term profit.
Rebuilding your infra and retraining your entire staff on a new ecosystem would be really expensive in the short term, even if it pays off in 5-10 years. And a high one-time cost is always harder to justify than a monthly amount that’s already budgeted into your operation costs.
So it’s still safer to stick to what you know, for now.I’m flummoxed for sure. I need a computer to be a bit of a power house, ideally well equipped for music production software and live performance, DJ software, graphic design/animation/illustration, and at least for the desktop gaming. Been in the market for a laptop so I can take at least the music & design production on the go, but damn I hate laptop shopping.
Unsuuuure if Linux is compatible with the graphic/music production software I’m working with, or if there are viable work arounds. Windows 11 looks like a dumpster fire I do not wish to support. I’d really like to avoid Apple as I have my own grievances there too. Windows 10 obviously seems on the way out.
Long story long, feeling a bit lost on how best to proceed. If anyone uses Linux for similar creative endeavors, would love to hear your roses and thorns on the matter. Certainly open to recommendations for a sturdy war horse of a lappy as well.
I’m running REAPER and some outboard gear GUIs on Nobara Linux with no issues so far. VSTs run thanks to yabridge and Lutris/WINE handles the GUI stuff. I bet you’ll be able to migrate without too much trouble.
Because CoPilot+ is purportedly trained on what users actually do, it looked plausible to someone in marketing at Microsoft that it could deliver on “help the users get stuff done”. Unfortunately, human beings assume that LLMs are sentient and understand the questions they’re asked, rather than being unthinking statistical models that cough up the highest probability answer-shaped object generated in response to any prompt, regardless of whether it’s a truthful answer or not.
Hehehe.
No they’re simply trying to emulate Google and Facebook by becoming data gatherers and hoarders. They’ve been jealous of how much data other companies have gathered about people, and then realized they could easily do the same.
I think you might be bit underestimating how much data Microsoft actually already has. They have just being better of keeping it to them self. MS from these three is the only one who is not an ad company, so they don’t have to sell the data to 3rd parties to be profitable. They can just hoard the data, bit like Amazon+AWS.
They need to stop polishing a turd. It was a great OS when it was windows 98, but at this point they’ve just tried to shove so much iOS and Linux into it that it’s a shadow of its former self.
They need a shadow team to make a new product that isn’t windows and is basically just a kde Linux distro.
Ehhh, Win98 had serious issues but your argument would be mostly true for Windows 7 after it had been out for several years.
The HIPAA concerns are very alarming. And I agree with the spirit if the article. However, I’m not sure the article is correct when it says Recall cannot be disabled. I’ve already seen other articles telling you how to turn it off. The fact that it’s opt-out and nit opt-in is a huge issue, though.
Actually it is more than a local problem. Since Recall shipped with opt-out, means every computer will have this enabled. Even if you truned it off, the computer on the other end may still capture your data.
Say you said something here, regret about and delete it, but right before a user have Recall enabled see it and can just dig out your now deleted comment. Not good. This applies to HIPAA data or not.
This is essentailly a local search engine that index everything you see and others said in near real time, without repecting
robots.txt.Yes, that is also a big problem. In general you should be very aware in online meetings / screen sharing to be very cautious and deliberate with what you show. That problem has burned a streamer or two. :) Having a boring vanilla “work machine” for that sort of thing is always a good idea. Windows Recall definitely makes this problem worse! You could be doing 100% legit professional ‘work stuff’ and it could still grab things that it shouldn’t (HIPAA and many other potentially sensitive bits of corporate data).
If you disable it, make sure to check on it regularly, as MS loves to turn things back on “for you” after Windows updates run. I’ve already seen some sysadmins saying they will run a scheduled task to make sure it stays dead.
