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- technology@lemmy.world
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- technology@lemmy.world
Patrick Breyer, a staunch defender of digital rights, laments the Pirate Party’s exit from the EU Parliament as a blow to online privacy.
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I have voted PP since their conception, and I think we have them to thank for a lot. Will continue to do so, probably forever. I don’t understand how these issues don’t get more attention these days. Tech related privacy, anti monopoly, ai safety etc is just a part but they have excellent values in other areas as well.
I don’t understand how these issues don’t get more attention these days
Who owns the media?
The rothschilds
No, it’s not the Rothschilds or the Jews… keep looking for what it might be!
?
Rothschilds are diamonds and other crap,
It’s the Australian Rupert Murdoch
Although him and a Lord Rothschild have been involved in some fuckery with oil in Israel
I think the correct answer is some billionaire
Yeah it could be the billionaire family that runs everything. Maybe it’s them.
Or it could be something else like aliens I guess?
No mate, there isn’t one billionaire family that runs everything. That’s way too simple. The problem is much larger. The question you have missed is what is above the Rothschilds?
I wish I could actually vote for the pirate party. But I can’t here. Didn’t show up in the election list. They were 2 or elections ago
I voted for them. Judging by the numbers, there must have been about three of us.
Sounds like you’re the new candidate.
I voted for him. Sad to see him leave. It doesn’t seem like we have many advocates for digital privacy in the parliament.
e: typo
Die Linke voted similarly on many issues to the Pirate Party.
I managed to convince my brother and a friend of mine to vote for them. This is really disappointing. Over half the votes in Germany were for right-wing parties this time, over 16% were for the right-wing-extremist party AFD. Germany really wants history to repeat itself ig.
But at least France is holding its hand this time! 🙃
and unfortunately czech pirate representatives dropped from three to one :(
There are more parties who defend internet privacy then just the pirate party. Won’t matter much tho with the current rightwing majority.
Is the incoming majority particularly anti-piracy? I thought they were more fixated on leaving the EU, gutting the “woke” public sector, and rounding up all the immigrants for deportation.
Just to make things clear, the pirate party isn’t directly related to piracy. There are ongoing efforts to render end-to-end encryption illegal in Europe as we speak. Dark times are coming
There are ongoing efforts to render end-to-end encryption illegal in Europe as we speak.
I can’t imagine how you stop all end to end encryption across a continent while you’re exiting the continent-wide governing body.
By law, simply making it illegal as is being worked on.
Who’s exiting? They will just ban any non-compliant messaging app
They whom? Is every country going to have it’s own national firewall, complete with highly sophisticated SMS-only encryption detecting service?
The EU plans to do so and as such every member must follow it.
And once encryption is criminalized, it can be trivially detected - or at least assumed to be encrypted if your message is sufficiently random.
The EU plans to do so
A bunch of these alt-right parties are anti-EU
They have been very active fighting the chat control proposals that keep coming, haven’t really seen others being so active about it besides them. This is really bad.
I wanted to vote for them, I did so last time, but they didn’t appear on the ballot in my country this time. Couldn’t vote for them…
Does the average voter just not care at all about anything actually important? What is even going on here?
More and more the average voter earns minimum wage, has to pay increasing rent, increasing food prices, has shit education, degrading public healthcare, etc… last thing on their mind is voting and when they do they follow what the (not independent at all) media feeds down their throats.
We just had a vote for government officials along the EP vote. Less than 60% turned up which means the most common vote was a vote for nothing. The average voter doesn’t care.
At least voters who don’t turn up are harmless. If all the people who voted for EPP-affiliated parties just didn’t turn up instead, we’d face far fewer problems.
I was thinking the whole week if I should vote the greens or the pirates but due to the recurring campaigns to establish a surveillance state I did end up voting pirates. Incredibly disheartened they didn’t get a seat :(
These results are just a drop in the bucket in relation to the grim state of German election results and overall societal discourse.
There’s not much room for optimism right now. Very dark skies ahead and things may get much worse before they will become better.
Fuck, this is seriously bad news
I always expected us to never address our ecological destruction or climate change in any meaningful way, and instead devolve into some techno-feudalist, fascist dystopia before the civilisation collapses into a death spiral… But man… I’ve never wanted to be wrong more in my entire life.
Watching the EU regress in unison, back down the auth path, is not how I expected it would go down.
Kinda alarmist tone.
I always expected for the irrational opinion of people in many Western countries that they can get anything by voting for it to meet the hard cold reality, but it never was anything like “end of the world”.
I’m hopeful. A certain kind of evil people have felt their power and are slowly becoming complacent, which means that the European societies will get a shot at getting rid of them, for the time being. And then there will be a dawn after this sunset.
Though that “allowing the snake to raise its head” thing should be done carefully, so that you’d still be alive when the opportunity to crush that head arises.
“Cyberpunk was a warning, not an aspiration.” – Mike Pondsmith
Sad times.
Quick reminder that in a liberal democracy, social movements are more important for progressive change than electoralism.
Join a union. Be it trade union, housing union, or whatever (or even any affinity group). And get active.
Complaining about election results achieves nothing, but sow despair.
“Progressive” change will only take you further away from liberal democracy and free society.
Also: voting is important because it lets you choose your enemy. Progressive liberals and social democrats won’t fight against you as hard as conservatives and fascists.
Putting this here because some people might read this and think “Voting doesn’t matter.”
Voting doesn’t really matter, though.
Looks at US supreme court
Id beg to differ dumbass.
The US supreme court isn’t even a democratically legitimized body. Why do you want to take the high road if reactionaries clearly don’t care for the rules?
Go to your local library and read a book. Any book.
“Hey guys, plowing this field won’t feed you, we should just gather.”
It absolutely does though. You can’t elect worker ownership of the means of production but you sure can elect anything from fascists to social democrats. I for one don’t want fascists to control my government
But media controls people
If progressive policies were ever put into place by an elected body, it was always merely a by-product of already established social consensus formed by bottom-up politics.
I fully agree. But people get better things. Not voting means they don’t. Not voting means the people who want worse things get what they want
With electoralism, people get complacent with watered down reforms and become politically alienated.
